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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
The way you've contradicted yourself without realising in this sentence is amazing. I bet you voted for Coyle in Jokers shocker of a thread?
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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
The way you've contradicted yourself without realising in this sentence is amazing. I bet you voted for Coyle in Jokers shocker of a thread?
you really are upset that arsenal fans might disagree with your view from the internet aren't you? poor lad.
Aside from last season Wenger has always treated the CC as a pain that he wants to do without.
When he first got here he loved the FA cup and we tried every year to go for it more recently its been seen more as the CC has.
Our whole approach to the CC final with Brum was a disgrace and one of my lowest points as a Goonah. However on the flip side the CC provided one of my top 3 experiences ever as a footie fan when we went to Anfield and destroyed them
Batista :bow:
Upset? More baffled that anyone capable of switching on a computer has such a muddled up thought process. I've seen members of the BNP use better logic to explain there prejudices.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
bless, your attention is quite flattering
The Cup issue is a difficult one, Terry.
I think we are all agreed that Wenger has placed very little importance in the CC. I think that the team's approach to the CC Final was shocking - and one of the most high profile examples of the complacency that AW's teams tend to show in certain matches and usually get punished for it.
The FA Cup I'm not so sure. If we have under-performed over the past 7 years, save for that hideous game against United, I'm not sure its because we deliberately spurned the Cup. Wenger has made some curious decisions, for sure - not least leaving Arshavin out of the game against Chelsea, but as Letters says - our performance in teh competition does not suggest a non-priority. There is more room for pure luck in cup comps as againsty the league which tends to even these things up - and those 'lesser' managers you refer to as having won cup comps while we haven't will have done so by luck as much as good judgment. maybe we have suffered a bit in the cups from being on the back foot in the leaguemost of the time, but that's another matter.
I would compare it to pre-youth project, where we were regulars in the final, winning it four times of course. Chelsea and United have both been regulars in the final over the past decade, as they have not taken the competition so lightly. so i do take on board the idea of luck and ‘rub of the green’ etc but the comparison with the ‘old’ arsenal and Utd and Chelsea shows how putting in the extra mile would pay dividends, at least once or twice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice Berg Kamping
06 Bolton – that was definitely a weak side
07 Blackburn – again a weakened side
08 Man Utd – Well we know what happened there and it is relevant to your point about being on the back foot in the league – you would have expected us to make the most of our league form and push forward in the cup but we gave that game away
09 Chelsea – Again, crazy decisions for the starting line up left us struggling before we even started
10 Stoke – A very weak team that got the deserved result
it wasn’t until this season ended that i’ve grouped together these ideas and the belief that wenger will not change his ways and do anything different going forward. Once or twice is fine but i can’t believe we were in such a bad position in the league that the cup had to be sacrificed every season.
Its called following the money thats the name of the game. End of the day the cups don't bring us or any club much money as getting in the CL does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
This is where the tossers at the top of the game(fifa/Uefa/fa) need to blamed for ruining the game imo. All these lot are interested in is making money not better in the game. Maybe if it was only top 2 in the CL or the fa cup winners gets in the CL the cups would be taken more seriously.
You can't say Wenger was happy we lost to brum in the final of the CC because we got top 4.
wenger called the shots for the team selections for the continued cup oversights, so i'm not sure i agree money has much to do with it - winning one of them could've had a magic effect on the squads belief in pushing on in the league.
Money has lots to do with it when thats what the board are after Even Arry fucked over the Europa league his team could win just to get in the Cl and get the CL money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz