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17-07-2012, 12:05 PM
Dennis Bendtner

Maybe the other thing to note is how much the club are putting on negotiating lucrative sponsorship deals after 2014, when some of the front-loaded ones to pay for the stadium are apparently up. That'd have to give us more freedom, Arsenal are a way behind even non-CL clubs in this regard.
17-07-2012, 12:53 PM
Coney

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

That's still too much of a burden on the players and it's about time the focus went on the organisations. It's like constantly blaming refs for making wrong decisions while idiots in Uefa like Platini have the power to introduce technology to help progression but refuse to.

The focus has to go on the Board and manager. As I said in a previous post, what did Gazidsi and Wenger say to RVP in that meeting for him to believe that we're going in the wrong direction? Why isn't anyone concerned with that?

I did notice what RvP said, but the problem is that he has just said that they want to go in different directions without saying what those directions are. Clearly, he wants the club to get the players needed to win trophies right now. It could be that Wenger/Gazidis want to do it too but over a longer period or with less financial exposure. Maybe they are waiting for Fair Play to kill the Citehs and Chavs (which would work if FIFA and UEFA enforce it properly - they won't, of course). But some statement other than the usual vague stuff would help here.

Having said that, regardless of Wenger's or Gazidis' intent on that way, what I want to see is a team who REALLY show spirit each game by going for it rather than sitting back with tippy-tappy and not shooting. A bit more grind and drive and a bit less pissing about would make the difference in terms of match enjoyment.
17-07-2012, 01:15 PM
IBK

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Originally Posted by Coney

I did notice what RvP said, but the problem is that he has just said that they want to go in different directions without saying what those directions are. Clearly, he wants the club to get the players needed to win trophies right now. It could be that Wenger/Gazidis want to do it too but over a longer period or with less financial exposure. Maybe they are waiting for Fair Play to kill the Citehs and Chavs (which would work if FIFA and UEFA enforce it properly - they won't, of course). But some statement other than the usual vague stuff would help here.

Having said that, regardless of Wenger's or Gazidis' intent on that way, what I want to see is a team who REALLY show spirit each game by going for it rather than sitting back with tippy-tappy and not shooting. A bit more grind and drive and a bit less pissing about would make the difference in terms of match enjoyment.

The sad thing is that for the first time in years the team were showing some spirit last season - with RVP as a captain. This seemed to be different than in Cesc's last 2 years when it was obvious that he wanted away. Now RVP's off too - I expect the spirit to suffer again.
17-07-2012, 01:37 PM
Power n Glory

We showed some great spirit during the season but it also started to trail off towards the end and the frustration and fatigue started to get to the fans and players. I still think of the day the crowd turned on Wenger for taking off the Ox and RVP throwing his hands up in disbelief. Once again, I can't understand why we didn't strengthen in January? Instead of loaning out Arshavin, we should have signed someone that could have given us that extra boost. Henry was great for us while he was here, but he was only here for a very short period. That one move may have changed the way things panned out for us this summer.
17-07-2012, 01:41 PM
LDG

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We showed some great spirit during the season but it also started to trail off towards the end and the frustration and fatigue started to get to the fans and players. I still think of the day the crowd turned on Wenger for taking off the Ox and RVP throwing his hands up in disbelief. Once again, I can't understand why we didn't strengthen in January? Instead of loaning out Arshavin, we should have signed someone that could have given us that extra boost. Henry was great for us while he was here, but he was only here for a very short period. That one move may have changed the way things panned out for us this summer.

True. True.

Thats always narks me actually. The January transfer period seems to be Wengers ultimate WUM card.
17-07-2012, 01:51 PM
Letters

There are some things about the way Arsenal are run. I honestly think Wenger's ability to get us finishing top 4 every year is borderline genius - witness how many other managers have spent big money and failed - but some of the decisions not to strengthen when it's so painfully obvious we need to are baffling.
I just refuse to believe that Wenger, whatever his rhetoric, can't see our weaknesses. The idea that a man of his ability can't see what every fan and pundit can is ludicrous. So what's going on?

:shrug:
17-07-2012, 01:52 PM
GP

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Originally Posted by Letters

There are some things about the way Arsenal are run. I honestly think Wenger's ability to get us finishing top 4 every year is borderline genius

No. It's only because other clubs have failed. PnG said so.
17-07-2012, 01:56 PM
Xhaka Can’t

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No. It's only because other clubs have failed. PnG said so.

The only thing that has failed is your face.
17-07-2012, 01:58 PM
IBK

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Originally Posted by Letters

There are some things about the way Arsenal are run. I honestly think Wenger's ability to get us finishing top 4 every year is borderline genius - witness how many other managers have spent big money and failed - but some of the decisions not to strengthen when it's so painfully obvious we need to are baffling.
I just refuse to believe that Wenger, whatever his rhetoric, can't see our weaknesses. The idea that a man of his ability can't see what every fan and pundit can is ludicrous. So what's going on?

:shrug:

I agree with this. And the only conclusion to draw is that both AW and the board understand the situation, but are playing the long game and had concluded that losing players to mega bucks clubs is the only way to roll at present, and that we are deliberately treading water until a)FFP rules come in and b) we renegotiate our sponsorship deals.
17-07-2012, 01:58 PM
LDG

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Originally Posted by Letters

There are some things about the way Arsenal are run. I honestly think Wenger's ability to get us finishing top 4 every year is borderline genius - witness how many other managers have spent big money and failed - but some of the decisions not to strengthen when it's so painfully obvious we need to are baffling.
I just refuse to believe that Wenger, whatever his rhetoric, can't see our weaknesses. The idea that a man of his ability can't see what every fan and pundit can is ludicrous. So what's going on?

:shrug:

I don't know.

But I'll tell you something for nothing.

Wenger is not a bumbling idiot.

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