Wenger Reprieve?

Wenger's the best manager in the league now SAF's gone. Anyone who thinks otherwise is nuts. When Mourinho comes back Wenger will be second best.

No point changing manager unless we change the transfer budget.

As for people saying they don't trust Wenger with money.... Whilst I agree he's bought some shite recently it's difficult to buy quality when your record transfer fee is £15m. Manure spent double that on a centre back and that was 10yrs ago.

I guess people have made their minds up about Wenger and won't change them. I still maintain that the only way you can judge Wenger is by giving him the same transfer budget as the competition.

You don't make the mistakes he does if you're the best manager in the league.

It has nothing to do with money either

There are quality bargains out there but we keep missing them. It's been a while since Wenger has discovered a gem but other managers have been able to and paid less than £10m for very good players.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

There are quality bargains out there but we keep missing them. It's been a while since Wenger has discovered a gem but other managers have been able to and paid less than £10m for very good players.

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This is true, but Wenger would no doubt point out that these other Managers are looking up the League table at Wenger. Don't get me wrong, I'm not having a go or supporting our transfer approach in any way, I'm just throwing a bit of context in there. For example, earlier this season, people were creaming themselves over Newcastle's transfer activity and on about how Pardue was out manouvering Wenger in his own backyard. Look at them now.

That's the quality of a team, organisation and manager, not indivdual players. I doubt he'd argue that otherwise he'd never buy from lower league clubs. We bought Ox, Walcott and Ramsey from Championship level teams. Arteta came from Everton and Pod wasn playing for Cologne.

I really doubt Wenger would put Newcastle's predicament to poor quality players. Knowing him he'd probably talk about keeping a team together, team spirit and togetherness. When you have a new team with many different cultures and nationalities, it's important to keep them together.

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Originally Posted by Grebbo

Wenger's the best manager in the league now SAF's gone. Anyone who thinks otherwise is nuts. When Mourinho comes back Wenger will be second best.

No point changing manager unless we change the transfer budget.

As for people saying they don't trust Wenger with money.... Whilst I agree he's bought some shite recently it's difficult to buy quality when your record transfer fee is £15m. Manure spent double that on a centre back and that was 10yrs ago.

I guess people have made their minds up about Wenger and won't change them. I still maintain that the only way you can judge Wenger is by giving him the same transfer budget as the competition.

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He's the most prestigious, but the best manager in the League, that is very very debatable. Wenger is still a good manager, but he's no longer part of that "Elite" Group IMHO, he's firmly cemented his place in the 2nd tier. Wenger's faults are not just about money and his transfer policy. IMHO He's made many quite big mistakes over the past 5 years regarding his transfer policy, make up of the squad, wage policy, tactics, player development policy etc

If Wenger was still the best or one of the best we wouldn't have half of the squad on ludicrous wages, let's not pretend we don't have around 7 or 8 'experienced-ish' players out on loan or on the sidelines. This is Wenger's squad, he built it and is responsible for the mess he has got us into.

I think Wenger's made a lot of mistakes but ultimately the best players win you trophies and we're unable to buy the best players.

Until we buy world class players we wont be winning anything no matter who our manager is.

I think Wenger is a far better manager than Moyes but Moyes will win a lot more trophies than Wenger.

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Originally Posted by selassie

He's the most prestigious, but the best manager in the League, that is very very debatable. Wenger is still a good manager, but he's no longer part of that "Elite" Group IMHO, he's firmly cemented his place in the 2nd tier. Wenger's faults are not just about money and his transfer policy. IMHO He's made many quite big mistakes over the past 5 years regarding his transfer policy, make up of the squad, wage policy, tactics, player development policy etc

If Wenger was still the best or one of the best we wouldn't have half of the squad on ludicrous wages, let's not pretend we don't have around 7 or 8 'experienced-ish' players out on loan or on the sidelines. This is Wenger's squad, he built it and is responsible for the mess he has got us into.

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Past reputation yes, but I'm afraid that AW will find out, even with money to spend, that he is now being passed by a younger; bolder and hungrier breed of manager.

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Originally Posted by Grebbo

I think Wenger's made a lot of mistakes but ultimately the best players win you trophies and we're unable to buy the best players.

Until we buy world class players we wont be winning anything no matter who our manager is.

I think Wenger is a far better manager than Moyes but Moyes will win a lot more trophies than Wenger.

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I disagree with that and it was shown this weekend with City and Wigan. Man Utd wrapped up the title easily and I don't think they have the strongest squad in the league. City and Chelsea had really good squads this year but the management has been poor.

The problem with modern day football is that everyone seems to think you need a team of superstars to win and that's just not true. I like how Dortmund have come through in recent and shown that you don't need a team of superstars to succeed. We need more examples of great teams being assembled. We need efficient and effective players, not necessarily the best.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

I disagree with that and it was shown this weekend with City and Wigan. Man Utd wrapped up the title easily and I don't think they have the strongest squad in the league. City and Chelsea had really good squads this year but the management has been poor.

The problem with modern day football is that everyone seems to think you need a team of superstars to win and that's just not true. I like how Dortmund have come through in recent and shown that you don't need a team of superstars to succeed. We need more examples of great teams being assembled. We need efficient and effective players, not necessarily the best.

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Wigan won a cup but will be relegated so hard to use them as an example of success.

Man Utd have a fantastic squad. What wins you the league is quality in the final third and that's why Chelsea fell short, they have Torres whilst Manure have Rooney and RVP. Put Falcao or Cavani up top for Chelsea and they could probably win the league even with Rafa.

Dortmund have lots of star players. They might have only developed in the last couple of years but they have several world class players in their squad.

I'm not fussed if Wenger is replaced or not but I think it's silly thinking that a new manager will bring success without breaking our transfer record of £15m.