Sami Khedira

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Originally Posted by Alpha

I don't know how long you be watching Lucas for .He was one of the best in his time . The truth is his form has dramatically dropped . At just 19 he was the German main striker . He has scored 47 goals in 117 games for Germany . That is very impressive record .
You ask why BFG should get more money than his 90k? Well , most players of his quality playing for teams of Arsenal standard are on 100k . You will agree he is no Toure or Senderos or Cygan , won't you ?
Until now , ramsey is our most important player . He has matured in a potential world class and more importantly a game-changer . He deserves top recognition .Kedhira being a "world class player " hasn't done anything for us yet even if signs today . We will give him top wages purely on reputation .

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You're generally talking about how he has done over the course of his career which suggests that what you are actually talking about isn't merely 'form'. The player we have here today, whilst being a good player, is also a player who failed to live up to expectations at Bayern and is far from first team for the national side now too.

Nevertheless he came with good credentials which was why he commanded a good salary. I don't think he should have been paid what he was but that is immaterial. I wanted the club to bring in a quality forward and they did. I wasn't going to be bent up out of shape about it because we made him the highest paid player. We'd been penny pinching for years, showed no signs of letting up and paying it didn't bankrupt the club.

What good is it to talk of what 'most' players of Mertesacker's quality playing for a club like ours get? I'm sure it hasn't escaped your attention but there aren't an awful lot of clubs like Arsenal around. You know the type of club that actually tries to run itself properly on the money it accrues through legitimate business avenues and not rely on the benevolence of a rich benefactor. And I'm pretty sure you're not suggesting Distin or Jagielka are on 90k a week at Everton.... not that they are the quality of Per but they are a club who run themselves properly and have to.

If you sign a new player, then what else can you base his wages on other than the quality he has shown based on his past performances.....or in other words his reputation? If his reputation is a fallacy that is another issue, but assuming it is an honest one, I'm not sure why it would not come into play.

Ramsey will have his wages increased in good time to little argument of most reasonable fans. We didn't cut his wages when he wasn't playing well so why should we be obliged to rush and increase them now he is showing strong signs of coming of age? If we put Ramsey on 150k now....and next season he has a shocker.....can we suddenly cut his wages? No we can't, it doesn't work like that, so why shouldn't we take a breath before we go increasing wages of players on long term contracts who have started to play well.

I'm not saying Sammy K deserves to be Arsenal's top earner necessarily...but if you don't want to be obliged to pay a top wage for a top player then you may as well go and buy Stoke's destroyer rather than Real Madrid's and Germany's DM.

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Hope to see that next season except with either a PL or a CL medal.

Wenger wouldn't countenance buying Bender for 25 million + or whatever it will take and loan him back out.

Don't like how injury prone he is

Khedira or Bender?

According to Sport.ES Khedira will be signing for us, 4 year contract.

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Originally Posted by Munchies

Don't like how injury prone he is

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Bender the safer and cheaper option

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Originally Posted by ARightTouch

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Bender the safer and cheaper option

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I think we will only save on wages with Bender, his transfer fee will be high as he has a long contract and Leverkusen appear reluctant to sell. Khedira whilst being expensive, only has a year left on his contract so may come slightly cheaper transfer fee wise, his wage demands will be a lot higher though...but you get what you pay for. Khedira is a far superior player.

Is Khedira's injury record really that bad, or has he just had one bad injury this year?

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Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice

You're generally talking about how he has done over the course of his career which suggests that what you are actually talking about isn't merely 'form'. The player we have here today, whilst being a good player, is also a player who failed to live up to expectations at Bayern and is far from first team for the national side now too.

Nevertheless he came with good credentials which was why he commanded a good salary. I don't think he should have been paid what he was but that is immaterial. I wanted the club to bring in a quality forward and they did. I wasn't going to be bent up out of shape about it because we made him the highest paid player. We'd been penny pinching for years, showed no signs of letting up and paying it didn't bankrupt the club.

What good is it to talk of what 'most' players of Mertesacker's quality playing for a club like ours get? I'm sure it hasn't escaped your attention but there aren't an awful lot of clubs like Arsenal around. You know the type of club that actually tries to run itself properly on the money it accrues through legitimate business avenues and not rely on the benevolence of a rich benefactor. And I'm pretty sure you're not suggesting Distin or Jagielka are on 90k a week at Everton.... not that they are the quality of Per but they are a club who run themselves properly and have to.

If you sign a new player, then what else can you base his wages on other than the quality he has shown based on his past performances.....or in other words his reputation? If his reputation is a fallacy that is another issue, but assuming it is an honest one, I'm not sure why it would not come into play.

Ramsey will have his wages increased in good time to little argument of most reasonable fans. We didn't cut his wages when he wasn't playing well so why should we be obliged to rush and increase them now he is showing strong signs of coming of age? If we put Ramsey on 150k now....and next season he has a shocker.....can we suddenly cut his wages? No we can't, it doesn't work like that, so why shouldn't we take a breath before we go increasing wages of players on long term contracts who have started to play well.

I'm not saying Sammy K deserves to be Arsenal's top earner necessarily...but if you don't want to be obliged to pay a top wage for a top player then you may as well go and buy Stoke's destroyer rather than Real Madrid's and Germany's DM.

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Lucas Podolski didn't have a good time at Bayern Munich but that will not dent his quality . We have had plenty of great players who flopped before they joined Arsenal and became amongst the finest players to have ever pulled our jersey . Denis Berkamp , Thierry Henry did not shine at AC Milan and Juventus respectively .
Most of the time it is down to the way a player is being used or if the system suits him . Podolski is an attacker . He has been trained to create and score goals . Defensive duties are not his strength . He can still track back to help a full back but it should be occasionally .But if you put behind him a full back who will need constantly his contribution then his quality as a forward will not be the same . Just another exemple , Arshavin was one of the best attacking minded player but the defensive burden we put on him destroyed him completely .
Coming to Ramsey , if we take into account what you said players will never get a decent wages and that will discourage other talents . Anyone can have a good or a bad season but when a player showed a massive improvement he deserves a prize to motivate him and send a strong message to his teammates to raise their game if they want any reward .
Arsenal is a big club and is generating money . That money should be used on players ( buying quality players as we just did with Sanchez and improving the wages of those who raise their game and show us loyalty )