Arsenal v Leicester - Sunday, 14 February, 12:00 SS1

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Originally Posted by Alpha

I am really confused if you are talking about Wenger who is worldwide recognised as a big coach and whose team is still in the title fight. Is this illusion of many fans thinking they know more than the real professionals becoming a fashion? Everyone can make mistakes but to judge someone in his profession you must be highly qualified in that career.

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We can get carried away with the armchair manager stuff but after almost 20 years of watching Wenger and Arsenal, wouldn't it be sad if no fan had an opinion or clue on how we should be playing?

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

Actually to be fair the media are having to eat Humble pie as far as Leicester City are concerned, have been totally dismissive of them until recently and now because they are having to acknowledge that they should be taken seriously they have turned it into the mother of print blow jobs.
I want us to beat Leicester tomorrow because it's our ticket back in the title race after deciding to stop and scratch our nuts against Chelsea and Southampton, but frankly I think the media attention is Leicester reaping the respect it has been due for quite some time.

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It could be said the media are also professional, in the modern context.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

We can get carried away with the armchair manager stuff but after almost 20 years of watching Wenger and Arsenal, wouldn't it be sad if no fan had an opinion or clue on how we should be playing?

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A fan having a dream is not too bad in theory but practise is always different . I remember how Alan Shearer was teaching people how to coach a team . when Newcastle were in trouble, figthing for relegation ,everyone was saying he was the only one who could save the situation but he couldn't . Recently Gary Neville showed us , by his good analyse , how football should be played but unfortunetaly, in charge of Valencia , he aien't showing what a genius he seemed to be on screen .

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Originally Posted by Alpha

A fan having a dream is not too bad in theory but practise is always different . I remember how Alan Shearer was teaching people how to coach a team . when Newcastle were in trouble, figthing for relegation ,everyone was saying he was the only one who could save the situation but he couldn't . Recently Gary Neville showed us , by his good analyse , how football should be played but unfortunetaly, in charge of Valencia , he aien't showing what a genius he seemed to be on screen .

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And this relates to Wenger's decade of dull, grey, unambitious averageness - how? Is he exonerated or immune to criticism because Alan Shearer fucked up in some way?

I was confident of beating Leicester this time last week. The more and more I think about it, I'm not so sure any more ��

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Originally Posted by Alpha

A fan having a dream is not too bad in theory but practise is always different . I remember how Alan Shearer was teaching people how to coach a team . when Newcastle were in trouble, figthing for relegation ,everyone was saying he was the only one who could save the situation but he couldn't . Recently Gary Neville showed us , by his good analyse , how football should be played but unfortunetaly, in charge of Valencia , he aien't showing what a genius he seemed to be on screen .

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Exactly how NQ puts it. Are we to have no opinion because we've never done it? Does that apply across the whole of Arsenal FC? Players, board....

Some reports that Gabriel is out for three weeks.

Merts V Vardy it is then..

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Originally Posted by AFC Leveller

Some reports that Gabriel is out for three weeks.

Merts V Vardy it is then..

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:haha: if true

Our training must be the most lethal ever devised.

Quite an interesting piece from Danny Murphy. Looks like he may have had to think a bit about this one, which is unusual in his profession.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35553082

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

And this relates to Wenger's decade of dull, grey, unambitious averageness - how? Is he exonerated or immune to criticism because Alan Shearer fucked up in some way?

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I am not saying he is immuned against any criticism or they are not founded . But the bottom line is , before making any criticism , it is wise also to consider all the facts surrounding the circonstances .
The main cause for the so called wenger's failure was the building of the new stadium which limited his transfer's funds . Then , there is his youth policy which did not work and he has given it up .
You have to consider how many times he was close to lifting a major trophy and what were the reasons of those near misses . There are also also his consistency in top 4 finish and regular participations to the champions's league and his two recent consecutives FA Cup. Then ,you need to compare his achievments if there is any with those of the coaches who had the same limited funds like him .
Taking everything into account may helpdrowing a fair conclusion .