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And as NQ rightly said, it's the performances that are as predictably turgid that are as much the problem. Football is a results game but you seem to forget it's about entertainment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters to Santa
If we played just as badly under a new manager you might think well hopefully we might improve with Wenger you know it's par for the course.
So many fans have lowered their expectations to match the club's. If all we can ask from Arsenal football club is to be hanging on the tails of, let's face it, much weaker opponents than the Utds and Chavskis we used to be up against then it's a sad indictment. I don't see anything spectacular about the chavs or the gypos or Pool. What I see is us failing to capitalise on a pretty weak league again. We couldn't catch Leicester last year - how Wenger survived that is a fucking mystery - and I'd still back us to fail if we were 10 points ahead this year. Because the second best, it'll do, you can't expect more, we're doing okay attitude has rotted the club to the core.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters to Santa
It's the risk adverse mentality that permeates much of football, 1st is great but do we really want to push to get it when 2nd,3rd, 4th is good. Wenger embodies the risk adverse mentality because he's naturally slow to change and is extremely conservative. It's great if you love consistency, not so great if your a fan paying the highest ticket prices on the European continent and your team used to be synonymous with great football and winning things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noel_Quinn
Spot on. You can only watch the same thing so many times before cynicism becomes the norm. And in fairness, our cynicism is mild compared to the fuckers in charge of this club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
It is an entertainment but some people always focus on the negative. Good results and poor performances and the whining is about how poor we're playing.
If we play well and don't get results then the same people say "it's a results business" :shrug:
So far this season has been fine, we've lost once since the opening day, we're in touch in the league. The performances have been patchy at best but I think we have the players to challenge, I'm not sure we have the mentality to.
That damn cup final in 2005. I wish we'd been hammered 4-0 in that landmark, end of an era embarrassment. Following on from that it took a while for things to get to the point where it became obvious the previous heights were never coming back. But there was still some hope. Now we just hope for 2-3 good performances a season. That's our lot. And at the same time the rewards for delivering up this third rate shit have grown exponentially. It's the corporate hallmark. Let them in and watch it all go to hell and pay through the nose while you get there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
If you are consistently playing well and consistently not getting results, than there is only one thing to take from that....you aren't consistently playing well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters to Santa
I tend to post more on the Non Football posts, just to alleviate work boredom. There is just so little to discuss about Arsenal after so many years of the same gruel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noel_Quinn
So you've decided what people say, even when they don't say it? Well, I guess you'll always be right then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters to Santa
So if you're consistently getting good results does that mean you are consistently playing well?Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie