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Got to agree, the glory days seem a long long time ago now, the last 6 years have really ruined what he built..it's a shame but that's life, his stubborness and ignorance of problems has led to this at the end of the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by RomfordPele
I feel sorry for Arsenal fans, they have had the 8-2 jokes 4-3 weeks now
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Originally Posted by WengerISaLizard
I think I kind of fall in to the Ollie Maccy crew.......cant recall calling for Wenger to do one........except (and I must sound like a broken record player) to change the fucking formation, that to realise that we dont have the players to play that kind of football any more.
Today when we were flying you could see glimpses of the old ways, we looked to be having funny but we were playing Balckburn and we should have fun......but we havent been able to finish games off or hold on to leads now for years and until we can do that we are going down or treading water at best.
We can blame indviduals, Gerbs should have passed, yes he should and he made a mistake but his wasnt the only one and TBH for the first hour he was our most lively player.
Wenger is making mistakes......and the formation for me is the most glaring.......Arshavin, Walcott are being played out of position and RvP can not play his position with out the lvele of skill Cesc or Nas brought to the team.
Wenger, his scouts, the people who control the are at fault here.....if the formation was to remain then the players to play it needed to be brought in.
We need to use the pace we have........two wingers......we have Gerbs who likes to play that role and shit give Miya a chance........why does he still insist on this way......we arent top quality anymore we need to be more direct.
I will never forget what kind of success Wenger brought to the club.....never and I will not say directly that he must leave but if he did walk or get the sack I would see it as a chance to redirect the club.......my only worry is who to bring in........Rafa? no fucking way MO - O'Neill, there are worst out there but guys remember we dont make marquee signings because we cant attract them, and likewise for a manager unless they are interested in the challenge......I would have like Rijkaard.
a though just occurred to me...........seriously do you think that Wenger was given only a certain amount of money to spend......I mean we all agree there must be more money but they nature, timing and urgency we rushed through things......I mean the cheap Cahill bid, Yossi o a loan could that have been because he was forced to balance things out.
That he is on borrowed time and that if things are not better by January a new manager will be given the funds.........if that be the case the board can all fucking do one.....because for his faults Wenger should not be treated that way.
At the moment I am with Ollie.......am frustrated as hell and to answer the thread 'when saturday comes......" I do care and am extremely pissed off atm.......will not tell Wenger to fuck off but his stubborn ways are not winning my heart.......at all
the wife is really fucked off too and that is serious..........she cant understand why Kos is playing....she just wanted to add hersel
I just dont buy the whole argument that AW is not given funds by the board. Why would any man taint his legacy if the board was not backing him. Ach and a few others on here got out quotes that had AW saying that he wouldnt stay in a club if he didnt have control over it. You think a manager that can get the old geezers to move to a 300mill quid stadium cannot squeeze out 15 million odd quid a season from them.. just doesnt add up! Wenger MUST leave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over
No point him leaving till xmas new manger coming in now will change nothing. we need someone to come in spend big in jan and go from there.Quote:
Originally Posted by FakeYank
Nah, forget January. Sack Wenger now, get a competennt caretaker in for the rest of season so that we at least avoid the drop. Then give a new manager the whole summer to prepare a team. This whole season is already a write-off - we need action now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
I'm hearing you there FakeYank and I am not trying to sell it to anyone......its just I cant see work things out.......has January been given as a finish line to get to by the board to Wenger
and they didnt want to hand the whole lot to him in case he like he is doing now fucks things up and leave the coffers bare for the new guy
Why didnt we just spend the required money for either Jags or Cahill, they were both players wenger rated unless by doing so he couldnt spend on other areas that also needed attention
the Oxo bid took a fair lump but listening to everyone this guy is a very good prospect
I think a new manager will lead to some sort of positive environment around the club. We need something, anything to hold on to right now. As you mentioned, it wouldnt change a thing.. it probably wont but it gives the new manager time to look at this bunch of players and then figure out who and what we need in the Jan transfer window.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
why spend big? there are other problems that need to be sorted, spending money will not sort it. learn how to defend, someone like moyes could come in, not spend much but he will get those players defending as a unit. throwing money wont solve problem, but a different manager might, change formation, use players in better posistionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner