I guess it would be truer if the CL wasn't a load of money spinning shite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
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I guess it would be truer if the CL wasn't a load of money spinning shite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Pukeis is a deluded shitbag, great result.
1. what was giroud thinking when he tried heading it across goal?
2. the media are quick to point out our players surrounding the ref but if you look closely you'll see mertesacker was there first, the ref said go away, and per followed the instructions. he was nowhere to be seen after.
3. i can watch jack pushing owen over and over again. love this guy.
4. i like the fact arteta fought back too. a bit of aggression is good.
5. unreal was unreal.
Just seen hardman Owen's little outburst. :haha:
What a chump. Just retire, you're not fooling anybody.
It also was pre 2005 when you enjoyed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
No it was sh*te then as well, but at least you felt we had a chance as we had a decent team in those days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
Preferred it when it was the European Cup though, it felt much more special and a real achievement getting into it.
I love Stoke when we beat them. There's something extra special when you beat a team full of chebs managed by a douche bag.
Very nice feeling. For this reason I like that they don't/can't play football.
Obviously losing to them is ten times worse than losing to any other team in the bottom half of the table.
I had a quick look on their forum and it seems the majority of their fans want Pulis out. They can see he's spent a fuck load of cash on a load of junk that can't play football.
you said you liked it back then, so make your mind up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
good to see stoke way above this sort of thing too
http://www.7amkickoff.com/wp-content...1882_stoke.jpg
I liked it because it was unpredictable for us, it wasn't scripted like it is now....we always had hope that we could do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
Now I know we'll get knocked out the moment we meet a decent side, I wouldn't give a toss if we didn't qualify which might actually happen this season. The Europa Cup might be a bit more our level and a bit of a change in fact.
How the hell do you discuss anything with someone who has such bizarre and inconsistent logic?
Spock's head would explode.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0cnXYhlBk1...+illogical.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by GB.
What are on about?Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
There's no inconsistency, I've always said the unpredictability is what made it enjoyable in my earlier post and there's no unpredictability nowadays.
You guys should learn to read.
You knew we'd lose to Bradford?Quote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
The bookies must hate you.
Thats right, it can't be you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
So it must be everyone else.
I did tbh hence I said they were favourites in the match threadQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Clearly it is with those people who can't read posts and come out with stuff like you just did.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
Yeah cos Bradford are in the CL :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I did tbh hence I said they were favourites in the match threadQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
but you said it was shite. would you care if we did qualify?Quote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
How much did you win?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cripps
#moneywhereyourmouthis.
You'll never admit when you've got it wrong - just like the debacle over your view on what Stoke fans think, then what you figured they ought to think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
Really, what is the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I say this as a pot who calls kettles...
How dare you?!Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
:PnG:
Oh I see what you mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
Well. It's predictable in the sense that we're not going to win it. I still enjoyed the group stage this year as it was against decent teams and I'm looking forward to the Bayern game. Yeah, we're distant 2nd favourites but for me being in the CL was never about winning it, although obviously that's the aim and would be nice, it's about the excitement of seeing some of the best players around. I guess if you're just a glory-hunter it's not that interesting, not that you are one of course.
:haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I never betQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I think it's sh*te due to stupidly having 4 teams from one country and protecting most of the top teams throughout the competition, it's the big clubs protecting their interests.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
No I don't really care, don't really enjoy it, it's dull and repetitive for us so if we don't qualify I won't care much, plus it'll hopefully be another nail in Wenger's coffin.
I never said I was right about the Stoke fans I don't follow them but I assumed (perhaps wrongly) that as a small club staying in the PL was like winning the CL for them, maybe they should get a manager who gets them to play pretty football and get them relegated to see if they feel better.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
That's the problem for me, I'd like to feel like we have an outside chance (however small) of winning it, pre 2005 I enjoyed it a lot more as I always thought that if things come together we could always do it, now I just feel we're making up the numbers and waiting to meet a decent side in the knockout stages where we invariably get knocked out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Who genuinely feels we have a chance when we play one of the big teams? I certainly don't, I could never see us doing a Chelsea or Liverpool and knocking out a superior side.
You just know we neither have the mentality, discipline or hunger to knockout the better sides, we can only play one way and when that doesn't work we're out of ideas.
I don't give a toss who their manager is, the point is, many of them don't want to watch the shit they serve up. And it isn't an either or situation where you either have thugs that keep you in the PL or you actually try to play football resulting in relegation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
That is the problem with you - you take extreme positions all the time. There is never room for analysis or thought.
That's up to them, but whatever you say it's very hard for small clubs to come into the PL and play football and survive, there are exceptions but most end up being relegated, if not in the 1st season then not long afterwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
Generally only the clubs with the resources to buy better quality players will survive in the PL playing football.
Incidentally there's nothing wrong with a bit of physicality in football sometimes, it's not a non contact sport, in the days of Adams and co players weren't scared to put in the odd hard tackle (nor in the Vieira days).
No one has stated that there is anything wrong with a bit of physicality.
Someone should tell that to Michael Owen.*Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
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You see that's funny for two reasons.
1. Arteta munched him.
2. Owen punched like a girl.
Shawcross's challenge on Calamity was highlighted on MOTD2 with both Savage and Shearer agreeing that yellow was sufficient. Can't say I disagree. Yes Shawcross is a despicable **** of a human being but red would have been harsh although funny
Shearer and Savage weren't "hard" players, they were dirty thugs. Who can ever forget the cowardly kick Shearer took at a player's head? And Savage had to be thuggish because he was one of the least talented pieces of shit to ever play the game. Hardly surprising they think thuggery is an acceptable and even desirable part of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cripps
Shawcross' challenge undoubtedly warranted a red. There are no grey areas. He left his studs up and leg extended and went for the groin. It's a shame he didn't hit the turf instead and have is leg stick resulting in a knee dislocation, ankle break and shattered shin. That would have been a fair reward for an assault like that. As it stands, he didn't even get a red card.
Owen's was a 100% red too, despite the fact he punches like a particularly timid homosexual. The rules are the rules. Not sure why they apply to us but not teams like Stoke.
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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
We can't compete with the resources Stoke have:Quote:
Originally Posted by Injury Time
http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/t...tony-pulis-tooQuote:
the net spend at each club since Tony Pulis took over at Stoke City and he's right, there's a huge gap between the two clubs. Stoke City have spent, on net spend, £120m more than Arsenal since the start of the 2006/07 season.
And...Quote:
Originally Posted by Injury Time
Why Stoke City's pockets are deeper than many Premier League rivals
See, it's like this.
Pulis is a guy who likes to wear the underdog tag.
But it's deflection for this own lack of nous.
In reality the guy is a throwback, a dinosaur. Even in the tactical backwater of English football his brand of football was dying out 20 years ago.
It's not even a new claim, looking on the skysports clips, tony pulis' reaction to the last three league meetings at the emirates has been the same....look at their resources compared to ours. And the best thing he comes out with is "teams like them don't like it when we try and stop them playing!".....what he means of course is that teams like us don't like it when their thugs go out to deliberately harm other players. I wouldn't mind if they can take what they give out, but the Stoke players were whining like little girls or lashing out petulantly whenever we got physical with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann
It's not a resource issue, i doubt Swansea are any better off financially than Stoke but they play football in a way that's to be admired and they defend well and don't lose too many games.....they don't feel the need to do that by putting the boot in.