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Originally Posted by She Wore A Red Ribbon
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Originally Posted by She Wore A Red Ribbon
Now the dust has settled here are my thoughts.
- It wasn't a great performance or result, our passing game was off but bear in mind just how bad the conditions were last night. Heavy wind and torrential rain. We should have really tried to adapt our game instead of trying the intricate one two's and flicks which are difficult to pull on in normal conditions let alone the ones last night.
- In terms of league performance it's not suicide time as some of you are making out. We're still joint top FFS! And Liverpool have Man City and Chelsea to come up in their next two games, and so unless they pull of the miracolous and take 6 points from those two games provided we do our jobs we'll go back on top.
- We absoutely have to respond against West Ham. Three PL games without a win is too much for a PL title contending team.
- I love Giroud, but we certainly need someone more clinical if we're aiming to win the league. They'll be games where we'll only get one or two chances and he needs to put them away.
- Mike Dean is corrupt. How the hell Mikel remained on the pitch just baffles me but I'm certain had that been one of our players, he'd be off.
Just read Mourinho's post match comments regarding the penalty and the Mikel incident.
Fucking troll. Hope that gets pinned up on the dressing room wall.Quote:
"They [Arsenal] like to cry - that's tradition. I prefer to say that English people - and I give one example, Frank Lampard - would never provoke a situation like that.
"Players from other countries, especially some countries, they have that in their blood.
"Foreign players are bringing lots of good things, but I prefer English blood in football and English blood in these situations is 'come on, let's go'."
The penalty should have been given in the first place before we assumed they would have missed it . Anyone can miss a penalty but I don't think Arsenal players have a reputation of missing too many penalties .Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
I'm going to be mischievous and suggest that the scousers beating City at the Etihad would actually be a good thing. This whole invincibility thing at home City have...smashing all teams that go there is not a good thing. The sooner it goes the better. More teams will be encouraged by the prospect of going there and getting a point and City are way more likely to last the distance in the league than Liverpool are anyway. I know Liverpool have Suarez but City have Aguero and a few very good forward players to say the least.
Walcott made a meal of the challenge but it was a pen and the little twirp in the black should have given it. We should be good enough to make these things an irrelevance though and we have been good enough for that to be the case in other games this season.
I agree with Neville and subsequently Ozim. Mikel's fouls was not a red, perhaps a yellow. Looked like a 50/50 ball to me and I actually didn't think in real time Arteta was going to get there first. Maybe it's because of the laboured, lead footed way in which his running comes across sometimes.
And yes it is pedantic but I am with Steve French.....we aren't top we are second albeit by a slim margin. If the league stopped today Liverpool would be champions, but I agree that second by goal difference at Christmas is sitting pretty considering.
Also I never realised that Costa scored those 20 league goals in just one month. Sign him up, I say. :d
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Originally Posted by Özim
No.
100% penalty, 100% red card.
And another for Ivanovic.
Plus the Mikel red, that's 3. Dean didn't have the balls to do his job - that's the kind way to look at it.
Dean did what he was paid to do.
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The lack of substitutions yesterday was criminal tbh... Ramsey and Rosicky were pretty shit yesterday. We should have brought on Santi at least.
Vinegar :doh:
Cech should have been sent off for standing up the whole game too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
It was Deans fault we only manage one shot on target, it was also the weathers fault and it was Mourino's/Chelsea's tactics fault as well... Some of the comments are embarrassing and are letting the players/manager off for that anemic performance. Biggest game of the year so far and we hardly even made an appearance in the match until the end of the game. I think given our history, that this poor run should be very worrying. We have a fight for 4th on our hands, especially if we dont address the lack of depth/quality in our squad. Top of the table was nice while it lasted, its gut check time for Wenger and this team. The next few games will certainly show if this team has learned anything from past shortcomings.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Lahey
I really wish that was the case but knowing Vinegar, he will post some quotes from the French Revolution about victory rather than fire up the lads with quotes from cunts like Mou.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
So four reds at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Red Ribbon
:gp: We had a good chance to win that game and we're not in form. We need to get it right otherwise we'll keep dropping points.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Lahey
we are nowhere near in form and whats making it worse is that our 1st team is knackered! I am just as frustrated with Giroud as everyone else is and dont think he is the man to lead us to the title alone. however people are getting on him forgetting he has pretty much played every minute for us this season and overall he has played very well.
Wenger owes it to this team to add someone in January. overall I am pleased with the first half of the season but our hold habits are starting to rear their ugly heads. if we can make it through the rest of the December schedule and inject some sort of quality in the window, I do believe we can still make a run of it.
Wenger can't repeat the same mistakes as he's done in the past with this next transfer window. I'm not a fan of Giroud's and I don't think the misses are down to fatigue. He's just not clinical and hasn't scored in 9 games or something like that. When Jack scored that wonder goal and we started playing slick football again, the ruthless efficient counter attacking football went out the window. We're now back to trying to dominate possession and passing the ball in the net where earlier in the season we'd let the opposition play and then look to hit them on the break.
I cant argue with much of what you said although I will say, for the amount of time we have been at the top and for what he is, the criticism of Giroud is a bit much. If we want to push on, we do need to improve on him, however to slag him off like some are (not you specifically) is silly. I am confident to say that he has put in 100% in every match, we have got some good results and you have to respect him for that. It is up to Wenger to go out and get someone who will improve us.
To your point about playing on the break, we need a ST and we need someone in the Arteta role. Yes Arteta is a tidy with the ball however he does not win the ball and drive us forward well enough, he is not mobile nor quick enough.
I don't think it's unfair to keep in mind that they were playing in some truely atrocious conditions last night also, I'm sure the ball didn't perform that well and was a little more unpredictable to utilise.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Lahey
Merry Christmas to all it concerns.
I think Arteta was fine in this particular games.....in fact he was very good even, but I would agree that a long term successor should be in our midst.
It does sometimes feel like some people will do anything not to criticise the manager himself directly, including slaughtering the very players the manager himself brought in, without realising the irony. Before the season started I was very vocal in expressing my disappointment about our failure to bring in a forward. We went after Suarez, Higuain and Demba Ba. Suffice to say it was clear we were unhappy with our forward options, yet we still didn't improve them.
I argued that not only did we need a second forward but that he would ideally challenge if not take Giroud's place, not simply deputise. Some vehemently disagreed based on his effect on our game and suggested we simply needed a lieutenant. There seems to be few people of that view now. Pretty much all you hear is that we need a better forward if we're going to win this that and the other...but that was always going to be the case for me even if Giroud has deserved the credit he has got for raising his game.
I have been really impressed with his attitude too even if he does cut a sulky figure when it's not going his way.
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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
He can and probably will point towards the returns of Podolski, Theo and the Ox with some justification (even if it is rather tenuous). That is why I always come back to the idea that Wenger should be thinking about January's plans and next summers plans as one. In spite of those players returning, the squad is at face value, incomplete without the presence of a top quality forward. In light of that and imo, he should be thinking about what he plans to do in the summer and seeing if he can bring it forward to January.
If we had not known how long ago our last game before Chelsea was, we'd have easily believed we only played a few days ago. That does not augur well.
Blink check your inbox before tonight's Liverpool City game :lol: