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Originally Posted by LDG
If I remember correctly, the commentator on the BBC said that ~8 (of 10?) of Jazunaj's bookings have come from diving? Looking at their Team, they have a good selection of serial divers (the former plus the likes of Rooney, Di Maria and Young to name a few).Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw
It says something when such a "big team" have to resort to such desperate tactics to try and win.
Indeed. Di Maria would have never been sent off and I'm sure Bellerin would has been off instead. As the commentator said, after picking up a yellow, not every foul is a yellow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw
Utd are a disgrace. Diving all the time trying hard to get a penalty and nothing but long ball football. Fraudulent coach and team.
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Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw
Hopefully the press continue to chip away at LVC because he's cracking up.
They are hammering the genius, but still a lot of excuses for Utd floating around.
If Rooney had made the run Ox did for our first goal we'd never hear the last of it. However, it turns out Ox was not that great as it was all down to unbelievably bad defending. Welbeck didn't have to do anything for his goal either, suicidal defending by the 'disgrace, disgrace, disgrace, shouldn't wear the shirt' Valencia who played it to Danny on the 1 yard line so even he couldn't miss. There's not much mention of the guy who can't keep his cool in a goalscoring position actually keeping his cool in a goalscoring position and scoring a goal, at Old Trafford, in front of 74,000, in the quarters of the cup.
Januzaj is getting off very lightly. Di Maria was at least touched (brushed) when he dived. Januzaj did it all without any assistance. A classic piece of cheating. But Di Maria is taking the heat because of the red card. On another day Utd could have robbed a draw if the ref had gone along with it. There should be lengthy bans for players who try to influence results like that.
There's also a fair amount of amnesia regarding our legitimate penalty claim and the two miraculous saves De Gea pulled out. On another day we could have scored 4. On chances created it wasn't a close game, we were clearly on top. Even so, a moment of madness by Valencia followed by insanity from Di Maria. van Gaal said himself after the game, the result had nothing to do with us winning it was all down to Utd throwing it away. Bullshit. We went up to their place and beat them fairly comfortably even though we didn't play as well as we know we can.
Never mind. The excuses make it sweeter. Where the excuses are pouring out at this rate you know it's hurting.
Really pressing on will be going to France and winning 3-0. Do that and I can see a decent run-in this season.
Louis Van Potatohead :haha:
I enjoyed the win but not too much . That was a good chance for us to give them a really good beating . It should have been a 1-4 or 1-5 scoreline and we fucked it up .Why is it we never beat them the way they humiliated us ?
Am I the only one to see that ?
I suppose you have to give De Gea some credit for keeping the score down. Hopefully someone buys him soon FFS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
It's been a long time since we scored more than twice against them. I think it was probably that 3-1 win at Highbury when Barthez gifted us the win. :lol:
The Di Maria flop stuff is finally seeing light in the media
Ł200m later, redcafe are still craving a midfield :haha:
So far , one could argue LvG has done worse than Moyes. No European football to manage either.
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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
De Gea is a top keeper , no doubt about it . But if a team like Leicester can score 5 goals against him and ,with the quality we have , we can't get a third ,it looks we give them too much respect .Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
It doesn't matter how good the Goal keeper is ,when the team is seriously beaten , there is not much he can do . Cassilas is a top top keeper but he collected the balls 6 times from his net at the world Cup against Holland .
It wasn't a penalty it was a free kick, the foul clearly started outside the area.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I seriously cannot remember a team whith more clear cheats than Man ure. Rooney's diving, Loo brush's elbows (no replays of his clear elbow on le Coq), Janudive, Di Maria and Young all have previous and i was so glad the ref didnt fall for it last night although Young did get away with one in the 2nd half).
Quote it just one more time :cool: :pal:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
Throat sore little bit today :woohoo:
No you aren't - I'm 100% with you. However, too many of us have been groomed into Wenger's school of mediocrity & therefore after numerous beatings at United results like last night seem to wipe away all the shit. Last night we simply beat a very poor United team with a few good performances from the likes of Coq, Santi & Monreal. Most of our attacking play was pretty awful, their defense is shit & they were there for the taking. If we had more cutting edge up top we could have scored 4 or 5 last night but we have mediocre forwards in Welback/Giroud & Sanchez is trying to do too much because he also knows their mediocre. The truth of the matter is that United are simply are very poor shadow of what they were, but in reality so are we. We are able to pub wins against the likes of QPR & Palace because we have better players then them but we don't have the quality to regularly whip the better teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
Jesus, this win is about as rare as it gets for us.
Just enjoy it and also enjoy the fact we've now got every chance of making another FA Cup final.
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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
A win at old Trafford is enough for now.
I thought he was amazing. My MoTM easily, disrupted their attacks, made several crucial interceptions and protected our defence very well despite Chesney trying his hardest to give them a goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
The only minor problem that still concerns me about him is that I still think he's too short. Man Utd were launching a lot of long balls at our defence (cos that's their main form of attack these days despite spunking 210 million last year) and Coquelin wasn't able to head them away decisively all the time because he wasn't able to out jump Fellani or whichever other clogger was there. This meant that one of Merts or Kos usually had to come from the defence to deal with it which left a gap there ........... which if Man Utd were cleverer and better, could have been exploited.
Don't think it was a serious hamstring injury.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
He was walking fine after the game when congratulating Welbeck and applauding the support; he would have been on crotches if it was a proper hamstring. It was probably a minor tweak or niggle and I reckon he'll be fine for next week.
And given that we had the likes of Theo and Ramsey on the bench there was no need to take any risks. Got to say with that substitution and Wenger also being wise enough to take off Hector when the Manc scum were trying to get him sent off, Wenger made some top draw substitutions yesterday.
spent all day yesterday wondering why on earth i was travelling to manchester as we always lose up there but my god was it worth it. We were outstanding. Pressured them into mistakes, pressured them into cheating and seeing the ref have enough balls to book them rather then give a penalty was great (was coninced he had given a penalty for januaj dive at first) \
Seeing welbeck score the winner and celebrate as well was just brilliant. I don't know how it came across on television but the 9000 away fans up there were loud. Its still ringing in my ears this morning.
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Originally Posted by Özim
"If a defender starts holding an attacker outside the penalty area and continues holding him inside the penalty area, the referee must award a penalty kick."
Said it before but Michael Oliver is the best in England along with Clattenberg.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw
He rarely makes a blunder and isn't intimidated by the names or the crowd.
If that was Howard "Man Utd's number one fan" Webb we'd have lost that after he'd given them penalties for diving and sent of Santi for breathing.
The first Bellerin incident was probably a yellow but the second so called incident was ridiculous; he barely touched Young. Yes it probably was a foul but it wasn't worthy of a yellow card no matter how much the Mancs will howl and rage about it.
So are you changing your name to Cuntface then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
If one of the mods would oblige. :scarf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Edinburgh Gooner
The ref is getting credit for not buckling under Utd's sustained diving and that's fair enough. But he failed to send off Fellaini for the elbow on Coquelin. If he'd applied the rules there then Utd's whole game plan would have been eliminated within the first few minutes. I hope the FA reviews this because it's so bloody obvious loobrush was sent out to target Coquelin. Can't be established without doubt but come on. First few minutes and the player with a broken nose gets an elbow in the nose from guess who. Why didn't the BBC show any replays? When there's blood don't they usually show the replay?
Apart from that, Fellaini committed more fouls in the first half than our team combined. He didn't get booked. He continued to foul through the second half and eventually picked up a card but way too little and too late. No wonder he is effective if he can foul with impunity.
There's also talk that Bellerin should have been sent off. Maybe so. Di Maria's stupidity probably saved him by distracting the ref. But then again, if the ref gives our legitimate penalty then Rojo should pick up a booking at least, maybe a red. He also fouled his way through the game but only picked up one card.
We created the better chances. Had more shots on target. Didn't foul persistently and refrained from the long ball that Utd preferred all night.
Utd don't have a leg to stand on. They were well beaten even though we didn't play to our full abilities.
Can you imagine Dowd reffing that game?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
Late but still, fuck yeah!!!!!! :scarf:
Pretty much agree with you here except for the bit about result being a bonus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
This game was always about one thing: beating those vile cheating cunts on their own patch.
Way how we went about doing it was always going to be secondary, imho.
I hope Ox isn't out for too long. I really don't want to see Ozil or Welbeck on the wing. I have no idea what Theo's done but he's not making it into this team until he signs a contract extension.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
The Theo situation is weird but I reckon he will struggle to displace Ox even if he does sign da ting. Ox is first choice for me now and I kind of get the impression Arsene sees him as first choice, he starts in all the big games. Ox brings a lot to this team, he was superb yesterday in the first half, tore them apart, he's done that a few times this season too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Ox has the footwork and is more suited on the wing with his overall game. I think Wenger has given up on Theo's development as winger. He plays more as wide striker taking less touches on the ball from deep and focused more on off the ball runs. But Theo brings goals and assists in abundance when on form. Only Sanchez can really rival that sort of output. But I think Ox needs to keep himself fit and get a solid run in the team because he'll be an absolute beast and from what I heard, he's dedicated to Arsenal and focused on being that guy for us. He has the right attitude and he'll be an important player for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
I think the Ox is great, the press go on about Sterling but I really think the Ox is just as good. I guess it is because he doesn't quite get the run of games Sterling does and also isn't the focus of the Arsenal unlike Sterling.
I know this sounds crazy but I actually think we are going to beat Monaco and go through in the CL. It is so frustrating conceding that 3rd goal as we will definitely score twice there. Also it really doesn't matter if we concede one as we need to score three anyway. We are going to have a Stevie G moment. 2-0 up going into injury time and Cazorlaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
They owe us a progression on glorious failure. Monaco will be ultra defensive though. They don't concede many and we'll need to be bang on form to break them down 3 times.
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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
I would keep Theo for his stats alone, it would be very silly of us to lose him because wherever goes he will score and assist loads.
I think Ox has world class potential, if he can stay fit and get a consistent run of games then I am hoping he will really kick on. The other thing really missing from his game is goals.
Not crazy, the team has crazy potential, especially offensively. We just need to put in a top class performance, it's definitely possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumble
It would be interesting if we did somehow get through against Monaco, we'd have quite the fixture list to contend with and I'm not sure I'd trust Wenger to keep the team fresh enough to come through it unscathed.
It's crazy for us to let Theo go but I think it would be crazy for Theo to stay. Wenger has taken his development as far as he can and there is zero left for him to learn on the wing.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
Where would he go? A step back to step forwards maybe.
I think the writing is on the wall with Theo. I'd have been happy if he was at least given a role to be the guy with pace introduced towards the last third of matches to stretch the opposition. But he isn't even used for that which is crazy given it had proved effective in the past and it plays to his strengths.