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You say that now but we don't what's round the corner. We shouldn't be wasteful with our resources in case of a rainy day. I have a feeling that rainy day will come with Silent Stan at the helm. We win the title.this year and the guy may start pulling back on spending so he can finance his LA Rams move.Quote:
Originally Posted by I am invisible
I think that's a level of prudence too far mate. I mean, if we can't feel free to spend our money now, with all this stadium income and this ridiculous new Sky deal, then when? When will it ever be the right time under Stan? He might decide to pull back on spending whatever we do with our resources - I really don't see a new deal for Wilshere making any difference to his plans for us one way or the other...Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Do you think Flamini has discipline problems when off the pitch and troublemaker? I mean just look at today's performance. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Douglas Reynholm
Need him back to save our season. At least when he does play he can pass a ball and at least attempt to tackle. He puts our current two imposters in Midfield to shame.
He writes checks his body can't cash.
Another with whom we need to cut our losses.
His body can't write cheques.
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
I can't imagine Wilshere being worse than Ramsey.
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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
We have had no midfield for weeks,this was an accident waiting to happen. Another one of our handful of no shows we have every season.
Of course not. Wilshere is a liability in as much as he's crocked a lot, when he plays he more often than not performs. At the very least he can hold onto the ball and pick out a pass. Ramsey & Flamini offer this team nothing at the moment, can't pass, can't tackle. Ramsey at least scored the other day but other than that he's been really poor, he was horrible today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Jack likes to run into defenders so he would be like Ox or Theo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Jack isn't as bad on the ball as those two, he does it give it away but at least he actually creates.Quote:
Originally Posted by mastermind84
He would be an upgrade on those two and Ramsey IMO.
I agree. Flawed player but I can't imagine his touch and passing being as bad as what I'm seeing from Ramsey.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
I'm not sure Wilshere is the answer either, he does run around and put in some tackles (quite often mistimed), but he also gives away bad free kicks in key areas and runs into dead end in the same way the Alexsandr Kleb use to, we're trying to find solutions due to how poor the current pairing is, but we forget how someone plays when they've been injured for so long, he's just not composed enough.
We need someone more composed and mature in that area.
I mention Wilshere in hope that he recovers this season but come summer we should be looking to buy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Unfortunately for Jack, unless he can increase his availability for selection to more than 3 months a season he's not going to be the answer to anything.
I agree long term he's not the answer but I think short term if he's available for selection I'd put him in. Our midfield is in bad shape right now, things will improve defensively when Coq comes back but we will still lack that composure and game management with Ramsey presumably still getting picks in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Central Midfield needs to be reviewed carefully over the summer and I think we need a long term partner to Coq because right now I'm not convinced of any of our options with the exception of Santi who is not getting any younger, I just think Jack when fit is a better option than Ramsey.
Ramsey creates tooQuote:
Originally Posted by selassie
I think the big problem is just how bad Flamini is. He is only good when he man marks but he can't cover ground and is scared of the ball. There was a moment yesterday when Oxlade made a move on the right and the ball strayed a bit. Flamini was closest to the ball and coulda played it and made a move but instead he stood bad let Oxlade recover it and it ended up in one of Oxlade's dead end runs.
Ramsey also had more tackles and interceptions than Flamini yesterday. It was a huge difference too.
Jack wouldn't help this side at al but my hope is that he matures into the Cazorla role but I don't know if he has the nous for it.
5 goals and only 3 assist from Ramsey this season. It's not good enough really.
He makes tackles. A lot. But in vital moments he's in the wrong position just like when we conceded the goal.
Thing is Ramsey has had one good season, you'll find countless players who have performed well for one season in football, you don't become top class until you prove you can do it over several seasons.
I think he still has to convince a lot of people, his game has gone to pot since that season where he scored 16 goals, a lot of managers would have dropped him for someone else until he showed some form.
This is his 8th season with us and much like the likes of Walcott ,Wilshere and Ox-Chamberlain where is the progress, the progress of these guys seems to be static, after such a long time with a club you'd expect to be seeing better, especially as many of these guys are coming up to their prime.
For me with a lot of Wengers' pet projects we always seem to be waiting to see the potential become reality, in the end just like Diaby it never quite pans out, perhaps we should focus more on players who are proven rather than trying to make world beaters out of youngsters.
You can't help feeling these players would be a whole lot more consistent and might actually develop from season to season under a new management team. I don't know how we stack up against the competition, but is it normal for young players to come through the ranks and actually end up worse than when they started out?
How many central midfielders in this league has 5 goals and 3 assists so far? I don't think it's as many as you may think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Not denying he needs to improve a lot of aspects in his game but I really think Flamini is a major problem.
I would rather us get a better central midfielder this summer.
I'll find out how many central midfield players have more but for the disruption he causes to our play, those stats aren't enough. And i've said this is another post recently, it's all too easy to blame Flamini. Before we signed Flamini and before Ramsey's good season, he was playing like this and he played along side Arteta. When he had his breakthrough season it didn't matter who he played with. First few weeks of the season when he was out best player he played alongside Flamini or Wilshere because Arteta was injured but that didn't have an effect on his form.Quote:
Originally Posted by mastermind84
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One of Ramsey's finest performances came in a 5-1 match versus West Ham where he sat deep and there was no Arteta. This was the half season where Alan Sugar trolled Spurs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
The second half of that season he put in fine and disciplined performances. There was a lot of fans who wanted Fellaini to come and Ramsey bossed him when we played them that season.
He has it in his locker but the goals have fucked his brain up.
Totally. I don't know why the simple things have gone out of his game and he's gone goal hunting. He's not not attempting to build play from deep and it seems like he wants to get forward as quickly as possible. I agree, he has it in his locker to be a great player regardless of who he plays with. Wenger needs to have another word with him because his game got after they spoke. I can't remember if it was the West Ham game you're referring to but I remember he had a game where he just sat deep and kept the ball distribution simple and crisp. He just needs to get that back and understand his role and how that role is more important than anything else. Seeing how Santi has taken on that role should be a hint.Quote:
Originally Posted by mastermind84
Ramsey's 8th season here!!!??? Fuhk me!
Ramsey isn't even getting the basics right, that's my take on things anyway. I'm not saying he should create like Ozil or score like Lampard but he does need to improve his all round game. He needs to improve his distribution which at present is woeful, he needs to improve his use of the ball, he gets caught out on the ball way too many times because he holds onto it too long or runs down blind alleys, he needs to improve his positional awareness, why is he even moving into the false 9 position if we have Ozil? I agree that Flamini is a big problem too but they are both as bad as each other, Sunday was horrific prior to Merte's sending off, Ramsey & Flamini were all over the shop constantly out of position.Quote:
Originally Posted by mastermind84
Ramsey does tackle but his poor use of the ball negates that.
I know I keep coming back to Jack but he has proven that he can hold a central midfield role for England and has showed that he has all the attributes needed to be a pure CM for us. Ramsey is on the flanks or on the bench for me until we get more bodies back, he can't be trusted in Central Midfield, he lacks discipline.
By all account his figures were good on Sunday but the problem with Ramsey is, he tries too hard to be everything, everywhere, all the time. Our best passer on the day, second best in their half of the pitch, most succesful at going past a player, most recoveries, tackler, a couple of interceptions and he set up Flamini for one of our best chances. You can never fault his effort and his willingness to try to make something happen for the team but with Flamini playing as false 9 and Ramsey trying to put our fires and create more upfield, there is no synergy between them at all. Ramsey will stay in the team, rightfully, once Coq comes back.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
He was on loan for 2 of those though which is probably why it doesn't seem that long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
Just looking at the stats and didn't realise Theo created the most chances (3). On off day for Ozil. Only created 1 chance and his passing was off. 77% is pretty low but he made most of his passes in the attacking third.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
Cesc Fabregas won the most tackels. :lol: 6/9.
Ramsey top for us with 5/7.
Flamini didn't make one successful tackle all game :doh:
I feel you on this but he was playing with a nothing player in Flamini on Sunday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
I'm not a big Ramsey fan but Flamini should only step on the pitch when we are up 3 in the 85th minute, that's how bad he is.
Five months later, he is out for another six weeks! What a fucking joke! Get rid ASAP.Quote:
Originally Posted by alexander
Nobody could have predicted this.
Sell him to the first bidder in the Summer
big fuck up not selling him to City when they were desperate
I didn't think he was due back until March anyway?
I saw the headlines for this but did Wenger say he had a set back or that we're taking our time with his recovery?
I think he just said that he was back in training, but it was gonna take about 6 weeks to get him match fit?
Sounds about right, to be honest - about the same amount of time you'd get for a pre-season...
You know what we should do?
Rush him back.