Nope. Please reply to what I'm actually posting, not what you're imagining I'm posting :tiphat:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
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Nope. Please reply to what I'm actually posting, not what you're imagining I'm posting :tiphat:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Of course the latter is his goal, the former is all he can achieve which is why he needs to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I've provided a quote where he outlines his priorities, you have provided a quote which says something different to back up your view but you deliberately took that out of context and then, amusingly, said that quotes were meaningless which makes me question why you provided one. Or are quotes which back up your point relevant?
You want me to do something you aren't prepared to do yourself?Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
In this thread I have responded to everything you said. If you feel I've distorted your views here then please explain where.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
You, on the other hand, have consistently responded to things I haven't said.
And almost EVERYONE has noted that what Wenger says in relation to winning titles is utter bullshit. I didn't say quotes were meaningless, I said your quote was meaningless because it is. Who the hell is gullible enough to pay heed to Wenger going on about prioritising titles and the CL when we can see with our own eyes his bullshit? If he wants to win titles and the CL then he'd best get on and sign the players to do it. He's had LOADS of opportunities to do that, he even boasts about all the players he almost signed but wouldn't pay for, even though the money was there (remember the 90 MILLION QUID BID FOR LEMAR???? ) He could have sorted out the defence. He could have sorted out the tactics. He could have sorted out the motivational problems in the squad, he could have injected the required ambition to actually compete and not collapse. He's done NONE of it. He's a giant bag of gas, a laughing stock. Treating us to his deep football insights and then sending out his team to get arse-whipped 6-0 or 8-2 or 10-2 when it really matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
He's a joke. Can't you see everyone laughing?
But, nevertheless, I sincerely apologise for the last 10 years. Me, and fans like me, it's on us. We fucked up. What can I say. Maybe if we made 20,000 substitutions we'd get it right.
There's no argument here. All that's happening is you are defending that which can't be defended, based on the evidence. For some reason you feel the need to do it. Fewer people are listening. This ploy may have worked 5 years ago, but not now. Not one decade plus into this farce.
Of course he's incompetent. Of course he's a joke. Of course he's an unconvincing, shitty liar. Of course he doesn't prioritise the title or the CL. What the fuck are you talking about?
There you go again...Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Where have I defended him?
Saying I believe he wants to win titles is neither a defence nor a criticism.
Look up at my last post. Your bullshit is explained there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Pretending that Wenger is seriously trying to win a title is so disingenuous it takes the breath away. Only two types of people who would make such an outrageous claim. Fools and con artists.
How is it a defence of Wenger though? He should want to win the title.
This is like you saying he doesn't want us to beat West Ham, me saying I think he does and you shouting at me for "defending" Wenger.
It's not a defence. He's our manager, he's supposed to want us to win games and trophies.
More bullshit Letters. It's not this one thread in isolation, it's the combination of all of them. You've already, by your own words, appointed yourself the defender of Wenger against the harsh excesses of fans who fail your "reasonableness" test. Seems that provided we are prepared to say Wenger is an above average manager who is trying to win the title and the CL, we get a pass. Otherwise no, and we have to be confronted and corrected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
By your own words.
And if you want to know WHY I post relentlessly against Wenger then I'll answer that.
Because that remnant of a man represents to me almost everything that is wrong with this world. An incompetent, deceitful, lying, money grabbing scum bag who has cemented power and is leeching every last atom of benefit from the privilege. While MILLIONS pay the price.
Does this remind you of so much other shit going on in this world?
All I want to do is escape the world for a couple of hours a week and watch some sport.
But we have Wenger.
I've already addressed this but I just respond to what I feel is incorrect to discuss the topic. Isn't that what debate is?Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Whether Wenger is too content with top 4 (yes, IMO) or whether it's his primary aim (no, IMO) seems a reasonable topic for debate.
Pretty sure I said this earlier on this very thread, but I would respond if there was a "Ty" on here who was relentlessly pro-Wenger and believed the next title is just around the corner. But there isn't so it just happens that given the mood on here the things I respond to tend to be the more extreme anti-Wenger views which I don't subscribe to.
That does not mean I defend him at every opportunity.
That does not mean I still want him here.
You can say what you like about Wenger or Kronke or the players any other subject in other areas of the forum.
Contrary to some people's belief, your views aren't being censored.
But if I disagree with you and I have the time and the inclination (and, honestly, as we are winding down for Christmas at work I have plenty of both right now) then I'll respond as I see fit.
May I recommend the MK Dons?Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
:run:
Erm... never suggested for a moment my views were being censored. And, btw, congratulating yourself for not being a censor is very much like self applause for not being a rapist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Gatekeeping is not the same thing as debate. And you seem to underplay the frustration some fans feel when watching this shit show unfold when they KNOW it could be so much different, were it not for one man. Kroenke's a cunt, everyone agrees on that much. But he's not the guy who picks the team, the tactics, makes the subs, handles the transfer window, organises the coaching responsibilities, delegates (or not), etc. That's on Wenger and his fingerprints all over every repetitive failure, it's so painfully obvious. You don't watch the games any more so maybe you don't get it. But for those that do, and it's easily understandable why fans would want to watch the games no matter what, it's explosively irritating to watch this muppet as he wrecks season after season after season. Of course fans are going to blow off steam. And what could be more unwelcome than another fan pitching up and doing the , there, there, it's not as bad as you think, routine.
Well after all these years. Yes. It actually is as bad as we can think, say, see. It really is. It's beyond a joke now.
I never knew my son took guitar lessons. I didn’t even know he had a guitar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
And how do you know I'm not a rapist?
Will you stop putting words in my mouth. :sulk: