Wenger Referendum IV

In the next month we have to play 7 times, and it could be a real punishment

Middlesborough (A), City (FA Cup), Leicester (H), Spurs (A), Man United (H), Southampton (A), Stoke (A)

Either something has to change or we will be the footballing equivalent of Gerald McClellan by the end of these games.

Looking at that, if we don't beat Boro and Leicester then I think we are in danger of finishing below Everton.

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Originally Posted by Letters

Top 4 was always going to be more of a scrap this year, there are more sides who have got their act together.
But we're going to fail to get in there not because we have bad players but because we're a bad team.
Chelsea showed what happens last year when a manager has lost the dressing room and they're showing this year what happens when they start playing for the manager and each other again. Our lot aren't doing either.

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I dont think these players don't like playing for Wumger. They care. They falter because they have no structure.

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Originally Posted by mastermind84

I dont think these players don't like playing for Wumger. They care. They falter because they have no structure.

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I dunno. I pretty much never watch Arsenal these days but a mate emailed me about it and said the Palace game it was like a training game. Walcott said afterwards that Palace wanted it more.
Doesn't seem like they're giving it their all.
And there was that still from the West Brom game, one of the goals. Here:


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/...9852806192.jpg

I mean, come on. Look at the players feet. Look how many are just planted, watching. Look at the guy on the edge of the area completely unmarked in case of any rebounds. That isn't bad coaching or bad tactics, that is just them collectively giving up.
They don't seem to be playing for Wenger or each other.

Yeah but you could go back to any season and find us defending set pieces like idiots. Wouldn't be surprised if we only spend 10 minutes in the week to practice them.

Look who's in the box in that picture - Koscielny, Mustafi, Welbeck, Ox, Theo etc. None of those lot have the kind of character to say 'nah can't be bothered to defend this'. But they're also typical Wenger players who let their heads drop when we're on a bad run. There's no leaders there telling everyone where they should be. Obviously nobody off the pitch is doing that either...

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Originally Posted by Penguin

Yeah but you could go back to any season and find us defending set pieces like idiots. Wouldn't be surprised if we only spend 10 minutes in the week to practice them.

Look who's in the box in that picture - Koscielny, Mustafi, Welbeck, Ox, Theo etc. None of those lot have the kind of character to say 'nah can't be bothered to defend this'. But they're also typical Wenger players who let their heads drop when we're on a bad run. There's no leaders there telling everyone where they should be. Obviously nobody off the pitch is doing that either...

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Well there was one player trying to lead by example in Alexis, but he was ostracised for it and now it appears he's given up too. Can't have any of this crazy leadership business at our club, only quiet and timid guys that are easy for the manager to brainwash his philosophy into.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

Looking at that, if we don't beat Boro and Leicester then I think we are in danger of finishing below Everton.

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I see nothing wrong with that. In fact, it'd be in the clubs best interest to finish as low in the table as possible... oh, and add in a couple of absolute stuffings and we just might have the secret ingredient to have change at the club.

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Originally Posted by Letters

I dunno. I pretty much never watch Arsenal these days but a mate emailed me about it and said the Palace game it was like a training game. Walcott said afterwards that Palace wanted it more.
Doesn't seem like they're giving it their all.
And there was that still from the West Brom game, one of the goals. Here:


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/...9852806192.jpg

I mean, come on. Look at the players feet. Look how many are just planted, watching. Look at the guy on the edge of the area completely unmarked in case of any rebounds. That isn't bad coaching or bad tactics, that is just them collectively giving up.
They don't seem to be playing for Wenger or each other.

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you could go back to the Invincibles and a find a still this bad.

That play was all about poor implementation of tactics.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

Well there was one player trying to lead by example in Alexis, but he was ostracised for it and now it appears he's given up too. Can't have any of this crazy leadership business at our club, only quiet and timid guys that are easy for the manager to brainwash his philosophy into.

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Alexis is not a leader. Never has been and hasnt here.

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Originally Posted by fakeyank

I see nothing wrong with that. In fact, it'd be in the clubs best interest to finish as low in the table as possible... oh, and add in a couple of absolute stuffings and we just might have the secret ingredient to have change at the club.

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You do have to wonder just how bad it would have to get before somebody at the club took action, or even spoke out. Because what do we have as we witness this collapse? Total silence. Enduring secrecy. There's not a single indication from anywhere that anything is actively being done to rescue this situation. We've heard stories in the press suggesting Wenger's role might be diluted and focused on the football, but if true that would be a bigger disaster. He'd have even more time to fuck up the team. Besides, he's already dropped hints that such moves do not meet his papal approval. It may take total collapse and riots in the stadium to get any of these bastards to do their jobs.