Unai Emery - Confirmed as the New Arsenal Manager - ORNSTEINNNN

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Originally Posted by Bumble

hindsight is great. Emery managed PSG and won the league, won 3 Europa leagues... so he isn't a nobody with no pedigree at all. Just hasn't worked out for us. He isn't the right manager to take us forward/stop us moving backwards.

Just not doing anything about it... shouldn't be the option.

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Some of us actually knew this would happen. Because guess what, this is the same crap that's happened at every club he's coached at.

Remember the job he had before PSG, were the players went to the owner and told him if Emery doesn't go, they ain't playing.

But enough of Emery.

This is a club that's being run by people who don't seem to understand that they are overseeing a club in London, that plays in England.

No one making major decisions, knows anything bout this club or the league. Just a bunch of Spanish jobbers, who managed to finesse Kroenke and Gazidis.

I'm not going to pretend I knew this would happen - I don't follow football closely enough, I didn't imagine Emery would be this useless.
But I did know that Wenger wasn't as bad as some on here were pretending, I knew the owner was a problem and simply removing Wenger wasn't going to fix that.
Emery hasn't done the things I thought he'd do but the notion that Wenger was this bumbling idiot and so inept that anyone would do better has been shown to be horseshit.

Didn't know much about Emery, but he had an impressive trophy haul and sounded meticulous to the nth degree. However, I always felt his away record was ominous and didn't really see how or why that should be ignored.

Now we can't even get it together at home.

The point of no return for this Club which has culminated in this mess was when Klopp went to Liverpool.

That was the point where Wenger should have either walked or let go by the Club.

Klopp was exactly what we needed, when we needed it.

At that point, Wenger’s legacy would not have been as tarnished. Also, this Club could have turned things around rather than put the foot down on the accelerator to oblivion.

I didn’t expect Emery to be this bad tbh. At the very least I thought he’d be able to improve the defence but inexplicably we’re somehow worse at the back and playing football that is even more dire than what we saw at the end of Wenger’s reign.

Emery is not a Mickey Mouse coach, plenty of better coaches than him have failed in high profile jobs. It’s about finding the right fit and we got the appointment wrong. Tear it up and start again, just like any normal club would. At this rate we will end up midtable if Emery is given the season to work it out. He’s had long enough to make an impact and we’ve barely had a sniff of improvement.

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Originally Posted by Letters

You were pretty happy when we got Emery.
You one of the "anyone would do better than Wenger" brigade.
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I think we went through this the other day. I was ecstatic Wenger was gone (and still am) and happy we didn't employ Arteta. The only choice we had was Arteta or Emery, on that basis I preferred Emery and on paper he looked decent at least, turns out he's awful.

Make no mistake though, he wasn't who I would have wished for.

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Originally Posted by Özim

I was ecstatic Wenger was gone (and still am).

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Yes, because any idiot would do better than Wenger... :lol:

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Originally Posted by Letters

Yes, because any idiot would do better than Wenger... :lol:

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He got rid of a fair amount of dross, which Wenger would have never done, so I'm pleased about that. It hasn't worked out for Emery, he's lost his way but with Wenger we were only going one way, we failed to qualify for the CL for two seasons running, the football was pretty boring, he wouldn't bring in the right players and he had no ambition, we were on a hiding to nothing with him, if he'd stayed we'd have just carried on going backwards and being thumped by top sides repeatedly the way that no other Arsenal manager has been. Before he arrived thumpings were almost unheard of, he made them something that we expected against the top sides.

Like I said though, Emery would not have been the manager I would have chosen, but I have no regrets about us getting rid of Wenger, it was actually quite a few years too late, by the time he left the squad was in tatters and we barly had a decent player left in the squad and had lost countless players for next to nothing or nothing, he really handicapped us with his performance in the last few years.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

I didn’t expect Emery to be this bad tbh. At the very least I thought he’d be able to improve the defence but inexplicably we’re somehow worse at the back and playing football that is even more dire than what we saw at the end of Wenger’s reign.

Emery is not a Mickey Mouse coach, plenty of better coaches than him have failed in high profile jobs. It’s about finding the right fit and we got the appointment wrong. Tear it up and start again, just like any normal club would. At this rate we will end up midtable if Emery is given the season to work it out. He’s had long enough to make an impact and we’ve barely had a sniff of improvement.

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That's what we should be doing, recognising it hasn't worked and getting rid and trying again, not doing exactly what we did with Wenger and sticking with him even though he's not performing well.

I guess that's the difference between a top club and a club where winning is secondary.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

I didn’t expect Emery to be this bad tbh. At the very least I thought he’d be able to improve the defence but inexplicably we’re somehow worse at the back and playing football that is even more dire than what we saw at the end of Wenger’s reign.

Emery is not a Mickey Mouse coach, plenty of better coaches than him have failed in high profile jobs. It’s about finding the right fit and we got the appointment wrong. Tear it up and start again, just like any normal club would. At this rate we will end up midtable if Emery is given the season to work it out. He’s had long enough to make an impact and we’ve barely had a sniff of improvement.

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Sensible post. The general feeling when Emery was appointed was that he was a bit unexpected but not an obvious bad fit for a club that needed to transition after Wenger's dominance and had top 4 aspirations. And for most of last season Emery more or less fulfilled his expectations. Its revisionist to claim anything else.

What is surprising is (1) how we utterly blew up in the last 6 weeks of the season and (2) how the board cannot see the patantly obvious now - that Emery is a busted flush. There is no hope of him turning things round because there is no plan; no understanding of what is going wrong; no direction and no backbone in this manager.