Summer Transfer Shit and Everything Else

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Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE

Its funny, but something tells me we'll sail this one through (player power will undoubtedly help here)....I'm just whinging because I detest drama and the fact that we obviously haven't learnt any lessons at all.

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For clearly different reasons we agree about the lesson learning thing

Should have walked away from the Mudryk thing much earlier and with Rice as well

Yes he’d be a step up from Xhaka not no where near enough to pay anywhere near what West Ham want or miss out on Caicedo for especially if Partey is going

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Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE

More on this, buttressing what Selassie said:



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https://www.goal.com/en/news/explain...4f3d4bfe52ecc4

Who knows, maybe if we had actually finished the job and won the league this season West Ham wouldn't be getting so wound up about us inserting these kind of clauses.... really, who could have guessed that failure would have such an expensive price ?!

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They are getting wound up because they want as much money as possible. It would be hilarious if they ended up keeping him because no club was prepared to match their valuation

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Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn

Unrealistic add on, you mean like winning the title? Which you clearly told me at the time we were favourites for?

Ultimately either way if Chelsea paid more up front then they outbid us for him. Especially if more of the money we offered was contingency based. And I’m glad they did

I also find it hilarious how you complain about Nicolas Pepe and yet bemoan the structure of our payments and the add ons. Frankly unless the add on clause is for the player achieving world peace, it’s not ridiculously unrealistic to add premier league or even European cup winning add on clauses.

If City want a downgrade on Gundogan and want to pay more cash up front let them do so.

Either way it’s still clear that both Shatkah and West Ham wanted a bidding war. Otherwise neither would have got the amount they are looking for. At most it appears West Ham will get 90million for Rice. And If City get their offer accepted before we come back with a third offer, it will again make it more likely that what I’ve said about KSE is correct.

Either way structured payments and add ons are an insurance policy and given what you’ve said about Pepe it’s something you know deep down is true.

Whoever is in charge of negotiating transfers at the club I don’t see how that will change either so you’re bemoaning the rising of the tide

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What you don't get is everyone feels like we are not serious nor humble enough when we start negotiating...and to be honest I get them.

We act like we're still "the big draw" and lesser clubs should be happy to sell their players to us.

For Mudryk, we tapped the player up and only negotiated with the club 6months later, drawing it out for a month or so. Chelsea (the club international fans have actually seen on tv), spoke only with the management and had their co-owner flyover to handle the deal.

With Rice, we've been all in the papers, mouthing off that he is our "No 1 priority", yet we know that West Ham would prefer a 100m+ or players come with the deal.

If you had asked me, I would have said we humble ourselves and go with Caicedo from the begining, seeing as Brighton's demands aren't that obscene...but now its going to be harder to backtrack because they'll feel slighted in how we made it clear their player wasn't important.

We should just stick with doing deals with our "rivals" who pity us and don't give us this much stress.

Looks like we’ll have to match or better City’s bid or this one could be done. I don’t think Caicedo is on our radar either should Rice go tits up which is quite disappointing.

I have no idea who else we would sign for CM so this is pretty shit tbh.

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Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE

What you don't get is everyone feels like we are not serious nor humble enough when we start negotiating...and to be honest I get them.

We act like we're still "the big draw" and kesser clubs should be happy to sell their players to us.

For Mudryk, we tapped the player up and only negotiated with the club 6months later, drawing it out for a month or so. Chelsea (the club international fans have actually seen on tv), spoke only with the management and had their co-owner flyover to handle the deal.

With Rice, we've been all in the papers, mouthing off that he is our "No 1 priority", yet we know that West Ham would prefer a 100m+ or players come with the deal.

If you had asked me, I would have said we humble ourselves and go with Caicedo from the begining, seeing as Brighton's demands aren't that obscene...but now its going to be harder to backtrack because they'll feel slighted in how we made it clear there player wasn't important.

We should just stick with doing deals with our "rivals" who pity us and don't give us this much stress.

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This just sounds like a load of whiny bollocks to be honest

If transfers stress you out this much, maybe you need to touch grass a bit

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Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn

This just sounds like a load of whiny bollocks to be honest

If transfers stress you out this much, maybe you need to touch grass a bit

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:lol: Don't worry, once the season starts, I'm sure Arteta will do his best to give me a mini stroke or something.

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Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn

This just sounds like a load of whiny bollocks to be honest

If transfers stress you out this much, maybe you need to touch grass a bit

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It's a message board, it's here for people to, like, post stuff...

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Originally Posted by Mac76

It's a message board, it's here for people to, like, post stuff...

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You’ll have to point out where in that post you’ve quoted where I’ve directly told him not to post

I’ve inferred that to get this stressed out over transfers is not especially healthy and maybe needs to take a step back. That’s a suggestion not an injunction, and it in no way states that someone should either post less or not post what they feel (because that would be hypocrisy). It was a way of directly engaging with the fact that he’d said he hated the drama.
Well in the off season period, transfers are what sports journalists focus on to keep people reading.

You really need to get off your high horse

And given you constantly question what people post in the Currents BTW thread and infer motives that in most places don’t exist, it’s actually a liberty that you would post what you have here.

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Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn

You’ll have to point out where in that post you’ve quoted where I’ve directly told him not to post

I’ve inferred that to get this stressed out over transfers is not especially healthy and maybe needs to take a step back. That’s a suggestion not an injunction, and it in no way states that someone should either post less or not post what they feel (because that would be hypocrisy). It was a way of directly engaging with the fact that he’d said he hated the drama.
Well in the off season period, transfers are what sports journalists focus on to keep people reading.

You really need to get off your high horse

And given you constantly question what people post in the Currents BTW thread and infer motives that in most places don’t exist, it’s actually a liberty that you would post what you have here.

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Now who's getting upset?

Your post to him was patronising and given you're often complaining about things in what you write, to accuse someone else of being whiny is hypocritical in the extreme