Good Bye RVP!

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

what a lying ****. worse then nasri. stupid lying judas ****

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I agree that his fake attempts at showing "love" for Arsenal and these sorts of statements show him up completely. However, we also have to look at the board when explaining why we're losing so many first team players. They treat the club purely as a business, and are completely out of touch with what football really means. Pointing out financial fundamentals may convince an accountant, but football players want more than that, and it's time we got a board that actually cared about the intangible things in football, unlike the current lot who know the price of everything but the value of nothing.

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Originally Posted by Letters

You are very silly.

This is exactly the sort of doing things on principle thing you so lambast Wenger for. I say we keep him and get another year out of him. We're not going to get loads for him anyway, he'll probably help us qualify for the CL again which would earn us more than we'd get and the fans would soon come round once he scored a couple, we're stupid like that.

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It was a joke, my friend :doh:

I personally dont care what happens with him as long as Arsenal gets a decent deal. 25+ million for him and he can fuck off or he stays and performs. Unless he signs a new deal and makes a 180 degree turnaround, there is no way the Arsenal fans are going to forgive him. He has burnt his bridges for the most part. We never forgave Adebayor and IMO RVP has been a bigger cock than Ade..

Sad to see Arseblog being such an apologist for Kroenke et al. He seems to have swallowed their BS hook line and sinker.

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Originally Posted by Joker

I agree that his fake attempts at showing "love" for Arsenal and these sorts of statements show him up completely. However, we also have to look at the board when explaining why we're losing so many first team players. They treat the club purely as a business, and are completely out of touch with what football really means. Pointing out financial fundamentals may convince an accountant, but football players want more than that, and it's time we got a board that actually cared about the intangible things in football, unlike the current lot who know the price of everything but the value of nothing.

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i have sympathy with the board, we should in no way shape or form try to offer stupid money such as 200k a week. 130k a week is outrageous enough, i dont buy this crap either that htey are just looking out for their future, most of us will barely make a million or two in our entire lifetimes of working, these guys can make it in a month. glad the board put their foot down. we will do this the right way and succed. i know we will and i believe. max wages should be 100k. if you want money fuck off, if you want pride stay. dont just spout this bullshit its not about the money when it clearly is. fed up of it and this time with rvp, its not wengers fault, its not the boards, they offered him money and fuck load of it too. his contract offer from us was about 30million for it if reports are right. he can fuck off the money grabbing ****

Apologies if someone posted this already

http://arseblog.com/2012/07/rotten-gone-persie/

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Originally Posted by Letters

Apologies if someone posted this already

http://arseblog.com/2012/07/rotten-gone-persie/

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that and matt laws piece in the mirror are spot on. he is no longer a legend but a ****. sad to see the one player we all thought was better then that show he isnt

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

i have sympathy with the board, we should in no way shape or form try to offer stupid money such as 200k a week. 130k a week is outrageous enough, i dont buy this crap either that htey are just looking out for their future, most of us will barely make a million or two in our entire lifetimes of working, these guys can make it in a month. glad the board put their foot down. we will do this the right way and succed. i know we will and i believe. max wages should be 100k. if you want money fuck off, if you want pride stay. dont just spout this bullshit its not about the money when it clearly is. fed up of it and this time with rvp, its not wengers fault, its not the boards, they offered him money and fuck load of it too. his contract offer from us was about 30million for it if reports are right. he can fuck off the money grabbing ****

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You call RVP a money grabbing twat but will defend the board and say you have sympathy for them when they are lining their own pockets? They transfer out our best players every year and make tons of money of those transfers. I am baffled at how people can still defend this board. Its pathetic really.

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

you expect me to read your posts now??

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:lol:

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Originally Posted by Mr. Lahey

Im saying Usamav should and probably would set those parameters. Are you saying things would stay the same as far as targets go if Usamov was on board?

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Nah, I'm saying that he has to work with what he has. If he has more then I would expect that he would not want to be shopping in the bargain bin.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Lahey

You call RVP a money grabbing twat but will defend the board and say you have sympathy for them when they are lining their own pockets? They transfer out our best players every year and make tons of money of those transfers. I am baffled at how people can still defend this board. Its pathetic really.

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Exactly, you can't call the players greedy and motivated purely by money and then defend the board whose priority is only the financial "bottom line", ensuring healthy stock prices so that they can line their pockets. The greed of the board is 10 times the greed of any player, substantial though the players' greed may be.

I've seen this on twitter a lot as well. A lot of support from Arsenal fans for the board whose snouts are in the trough, even though it's the board that are fleecing the fans and are behaving purely like capitalists.

Highbury Harold ‏@BlackScarfAFC

Little known fact: A few years back an #Arsenal Board member handed over money to a fans group towards an anti-Usmanov banner. Professional?

Absolutely pathetic.

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Originally Posted by Joker

Exactly, you can't call the players greedy and motivated purely by money and then defend the board whose priority is only the financial "bottom line", ensuring healthy stock prices so that they can line their pockets. The greed of the board is 10 times the greed of any player, substantial though the players' greed may be.

I've seen this on twitter a lot as well. A lot of support from Arsenal fans for the board whose snouts are in the trough, even though it's the board that are fleecing the fans and are behaving purely like capitalists.

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Nah, that's a load of BS. They're not exactly fleecing the fans, we have stadium debt, transfer fees and player's wages along with all the other millions in overheads. Our board have so far run our club in a financially sound manner, look at Leeds Utd, look at Wimbledon, Portsmouth, look at Rangers - ask yourself why it's only Chelsea and Man City spending ridiculous amounts every summer it's not Tottenham, Liverpool, Newcastle or Man Utd for that matter...they seem to always sell to spend too. I don't blame the board, Usmanov is a nutcase along with Dein in their statement which said 'pay RVP what he's being offered by other clubs' - all the more reason to keep them as far away from Arsenal football club as possible.

The problem with football today lies with the governing bodies - end of. You want to blame someone...blame the farce that is Blatter and Pratini and their corrupt cronies...talking about financial fair play is all bollocks - they know it, we know it everyone knows it. They support Barcelona and they can't enforce regulations which will effect their team.

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Originally Posted by Joker

Highbury Harold ‏@BlackScarfAFC

Little known fact: A few years back an #Arsenal Board member handed over money to a fans group towards an anti-Usmanov banner. Professional?

Absolutely pathetic.

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That's nothing! Usmanov ate Sir Chips Keswick!

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Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10

Nah, that's a load of BS. They're not exactly fleecing the fans, we have stadium debt, transfer fees and player's wages along with all the other millions in overheads. Our board have so far run our club in a financially sound manner, look at Leeds Utd, look at Wimbledon, Portsmouth, look at Rangers - ask yourself why it's only Chelsea and Man City spending ridiculous amounts every summer it's not Tottenham, Liverpool, Newcastle or Man Utd for that matter...they seem to always sell to spend too. I don't blame the board, Usmanov is a nutcase along with Dein in their statement which said 'pay RVP what he's being offered by other clubs' - all the more reason to keep them as far away from Arsenal football club as possible.

The problem with football today lies with the governing bodies - end of. You want to blame someone...blame the farce that is Blatter and Pratini and their corrupt cronies...talking about financial fair play is all bollocks - they know it, we know it everyone knows it. They support Barcelona and they can't enforce regulations which will effect their team.

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Other clubs also have transfer fees, wages and millions in overheads but they don't pass on the costs onto their fans in such a blatant way. If our so called "sustainable" model requires such exorbitant ticket prices, then it's a pathetic model tbh that shouldn't be applied to a football club.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

what a lying ****. worse then nasri. stupid lying judas ****

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Seriously. You're going to give yourself an aneurysm.
Calm down, dear, it's only a footballer.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Lahey

You call RVP a money grabbing twat but will defend the board and say you have sympathy for them when they are lining their own pockets? They transfer out our best players every year and make tons of money of those transfers. I am baffled at how people can still defend this board. Its pathetic really.

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i dont have any sympathy for the board lining their own pockets however refusing to break the bank to give a player ridiclous wages is something i do have sympathy with them and i think its right.

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Originally Posted by Joker

Other clubs also have transfer fees, wages and millions in overheads but they don't pass on the costs onto their fans in such a blatant way. If our so called "sustainable" model requires such exorbitant ticket prices, then it's a pathetic model tbh that shouldn't be applied to a football club.

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Granted ticket prices are ridiculous and we get charged the most. But the other london clubs are not far off those prices to be fair. It's all crazy prices. I still have one of my junior gunner ticket stubs from 1992 (v QPR) which cost 4.75GBP, my mum's ticket was 11.00GBP....prices have risen in the last 20 years!

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Originally Posted by Letters

Seriously. You're going to give yourself an aneurysm.
Calm down, dear, it's only a footballer.

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its distracting me from the fact that i have no job, no money, and cant go home as got hospital appointments and stuck on my own

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

its distracting me from the fact that i have no job, no money, and cant go home as got hospital appointments and stuck on my own

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Hope things get better for you soon.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

its distracting me from the fact that i have no job, no money, and cant go home as got hospital appointments and stuck on my own

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:hug:

All he has to do now is wait for Citeh to sell Adebayor and he can go there to be with his best chum Samir Nasri.

All happy together.

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May be we can get Adebayor back

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Originally Posted by fakeyank

May be we can get Adebayor back

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Would be the best deal of all time

At the moment the only 2 clubs that will pay over the odds for him are City and PSG , so hopefully we can start a bidding war between the two.

Or we could just get Heskey on a free :
https://p.twimg.com/AxDnT5ICEAISigI.jpg

Disgusting how Ivanhoe is treated on here

We wont concede many with him in our team.

Wont score many either tbh

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

i have sympathy with the board, we should in no way shape or form try to offer stupid money such as 200k a week. 130k a week is outrageous enough, i dont buy this crap either that htey are just looking out for their future, most of us will barely make a million or two in our entire lifetimes of working, these guys can make it in a month. glad the board put their foot down. we will do this the right way and succed. i know we will and i believe. max wages should be 100k. if you want money fuck off, if you want pride stay. dont just spout this bullshit its not about the money when it clearly is. fed up of it and this time with rvp, its not wengers fault, its not the boards, they offered him money and fuck load of it too. his contract offer from us was about 30million for it if reports are right. he can fuck off the money grabbing ****

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But in another thread, you said this.

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with regards to usmanov, what is stopping him paying rvp the money himself, or paying for players etc?

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Why is that acceptable? Or would you be happy if he stumped up the cash to pay for RVP's contract and other players? It's one thing to accuse players of being greedy but it's a bit hypocritical if we're suggesting it's okay for someone like Usamov to write the cheque to pay for all these players. I'm not saying that you're in support of a takeover just looking for clarification.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

i have sympathy with the board, we should in no way shape or form try to offer stupid money such as 200k a week. 130k a week is outrageous enough, i dont buy this crap either that htey are just looking out for their future, most of us will barely make a million or two in our entire lifetimes of working, these guys can make it in a month. glad the board put their foot down. we will do this the right way and succed. i know we will and i believe. max wages should be 100k. if you want money fuck off, if you want pride stay. dont just spout this bullshit its not about the money when it clearly is. fed up of it and this time with rvp, its not wengers fault, its not the boards, they offered him money and fuck load of it too. his contract offer from us was about 30million for it if reports are right. he can fuck off the money grabbing ****

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It's never Wenger or the boards fault is it? Whatever they do it's always someone else fault, this despite 7 years with nothing to show, losing all our best players season after season, charging the highest ticket prices whilst not really investing.

You'll point to the stadium no doubt, but who owns that? The guys at the top, they're the ones making the money from all this. It must be so great for them to be able to charge huge amounts whilst not having to re-invest and still getting a full house every week whilst selling the best players every summer to make sure we make a profit.

It's no coincidence that all our best players leave and it's not just about money, it's the fact we're not bothered about success, after a while even the most loyal believers stop believing and defect.

The only ones who "believe" are those in the money, Wenger who get's his huge pay packet and the board.

We are bothered about success but the board's definition of success isn't the same as yours.

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Originally Posted by Letters

We are bothered about success but the board's definition of success isn't the same as yours.

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You're right, the board and managers definition of success is profit sadly, something the average fan doesn't give a damn about.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

But in another thread, you said this.



Why is that acceptable? Or would you be happy if he stumped up the cash to pay for RVP's contract and other players? It's one thing to accuse players of being greedy but it's a bit hypocritical if we're suggesting it's okay for someone like Usamov to write the cheque to pay for all these players. I'm not saying that you're in support of a takeover just looking for clarification.

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that was more a point of instead of pissing off the fans and causing problems which will cause damage to the club, why not actually stump up your own cash instead of writing bullshit statements.

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

It's never Wenger or the boards fault is it? Whatever they do it's always someone else fault, this despite 7 years with nothing to show, losing all our best players season after season, charging the highest ticket prices whilst not really investing.

You'll point to the stadium no doubt, but who owns that? The guys at the top, they're the ones making the money from all this. It must be so great for them to be able to charge huge amounts whilst not having to re-invest and still getting a full house every week whilst selling the best players every summer to make sure we make a profit.

It's no coincidence that all our best players leave and it's not just about money, it's the fact we're not bothered about success, after a while even the most loyal believers stop believing and defect.

The only ones who "believe" are those in the money, Wenger who get's his huge pay packet and the board.

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you and i are complete opposites and there is no way we will agree. you blame wenger for everything from not spending to not winning yet i blame the players for not performing. we might as well stop talking, we wont agree.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

you and i are complete opposites and there is no way we will agree. you blame wenger for everything from not spending to not winning yet i blame the players for not performing. we might as well stop talking, we wont agree.

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It's not a players job to build a winning team, a manager has full say on who he buys/sells, plays/benches as well as tactics and formations amonst other things.

Even a player playing at the top of his game every match isn't going to win you trophies without a good team around him. You blame the players but it's not them that build the team.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

that was more a point of instead of pissing off the fans and causing problems which will cause damage to the club, why not actually stump up your own cash instead of writing bullshit statements.

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But isn't it a bit hypocritical to criticise RVP for wanting more money but then suggesting Usamnov should stump up his own cash to pay for such a player? Fans claim the morale high ground on this sort of issue, criticise clubs like Chelsea and City but those morals would instantly go out the window if we had a sugar daddy to give us want we want. Not all fans, but you seem to be toeing the line especially if we're happy to accept Usamov's money.

Been mentioned that he's the only one left to have won a trophy with us? No? May as well fuel some more wrist-slitting. I think one Johan Djourou would be our new longest-serving player.

Will feel strange calling the God of last season a ****bag but why the hell not. He whores when he wants...

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

i dont have any sympathy for the board lining their own pockets however refusing to break the bank to give a player ridiclous wages is something i do have sympathy with them and i think its right.

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the board cash in on our talent and put very little back into the club. they take a nice big payday while disrespecting the fans with comical sound bytes, telling us to keep our mouths shut and to be grateful of 4th cause its a trophy. its all the same bullshit however you want to wash it. i dont see how you can feel sorry for them in any way? they are sitting on money and wont even pay their world class star player the going price. if anything you should be more upset at the silly contracts Arsene and CO. have signed, they have wasted MILLIONS on shite players when that money could go to our top end talent.

http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/vi...in-van-persie/

:lol:

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

It's not a players job to build a winning team, a manager has full say on who he buys/sells, plays/benches as well as tactics and formations amonst other things.

Even a player playing at the top of his game every match isn't going to win you trophies without a good team around him. You blame the players but it's not them that build the team.

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id say the past 7 years has been a collective fuck up and an accumulation of consistently bad decisions made from a variety of different people; all of which has resulted in the progressive downgrading of our club from genuine title contenders to tournament fillers.

people can go as far back as blaming david dein because he was the first to sell to an outsider (usmanov), creating a multiplier effect that still poisons our club to this very day. or you could blame hill-wood for being a backwards senile twit who has embarrassed the club by keeping to his values, many of which are antiquated at its core. equally, you could blame wenger for believing in the youth project even when the project clearly degenerated our club into a chaotic mess, something our players have finally started seeing hence the mass walkouts. so i dont think its fair to point fingers at one person even for the on-field shambles; the manager believed in a youth project but the board let him run it for so long that in the end, it defeated even our own club. meanwhile, the board sat back and milked higher ticket prices, selling us a false vision of the future. during all of that, the man who's supposed to love us the most, mr dein, sold his soul to an oligarch but still insists his intentions were good.

everyone has consistently f*cked up.

one by one.

absolutely everyone.

the biggest worry is that we as an entity allowed this to happen without any strong opposition. the regime repressed the fans and still dismiss the critics as a minority. well now the 'minority' are turning into a 'majority', but one fears its too late.

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Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm

http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/vi...in-van-persie/

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Bendtner Bendtner Bendtner! Fricken Bendtner!

Are you fricken kidding me?

Rumours at the moment are that we will be looking at lewandowski as a potential rvp replacement :coffee:

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Originally Posted by GB.

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Bendtner Bendtner Bendtner! Fricken Bendtner!

Are you fricken kidding me?

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:lol: in stitches. I'm frickin done! What a lunatic.

Someone has to do the Downfall Hitker remix.