Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

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Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner

Interesting observation. I wonder if people would have considered Mahrez and Kante as "bargain bucket" occupants before this season? It seems to me that there are still plenty of good players in the bargain bucket.

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Of course we would have, despite that would either of them have reach their current level in our chaotic system?

Wenger needs to be shopping for close to the finished product in order for us to win the major prizes.

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Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner

More likely, it is a club that knows it has a lot of money and needs to placate its fan base. [An alternative, more conspiratorial view is that West Ham knew that the bid would be rejected but made it anyway in order to suggest that it is an ambitious club.]

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Why do you think they need to placate their fans? They've just had their best season in years, have a great manager, decent squad and heading off into a free, larger stadium. Not a bad time to be a Spammers fan really. Sullivan just likes to throw money around. Carroll is a prime example of that. They've thrown loads of wilds bids around since their consortium took over.

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Originally Posted by selassie

Of course we would have, despite that would either of them have reach their current level in our chaotic system?

Wenger needs to be shopping for close to the finished product in order for us to win the major prizes.

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Leaving aside the fact that those two unfinished product players have just won a major prize, the problem is that by demanding only "close to the finished product" reduces the options and raises the costs. How many players are there that (1) could a similar job as Mahrez; (2) is available; (3) will fit into the Arsenal squad?

I understand and share the frustration. However, we do not know what goes on behind the scenes. I am always wondering who releases the rumours and stories about different players: is it a player's agent trying to re-negotiate a better contract; a selling club trying to see if there is any interest; a buying club trying to see who is available; a genuine story; or a journalist's flight of fantasy to fill the white space.

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Originally Posted by Kano

Why do you think they need to placate their fans? They've just had their best season in years, have a great manager, decent squad and heading off into a free, larger stadium. Not a bad time to be a Spammers fan really. Sullivan just likes to throw money around. Carroll is a prime example of that. They've thrown loads of wilds bids around since their consortium took over.

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I raised the issue of placating the fans precisely because they have just had their best season and are heading off to a new stadium with a much larger capacity. It is possible that the enquiry/bid was genuine but I am just being cynical.

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Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner

I am always wondering who releases the rumours and stories about different players: is it a player's agent trying to re-negotiate a better contract; a selling club trying to see if there is any interest; a buying club trying to see who is available; a genuine story; or a journalist's flight of fantasy to fill the white space.

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A bit from column A, column B....there are so many conflicting agendas going on the industry, so many sources working out ways to make money from the game, that the truth is never black and white.

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Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner

I raised the issue of placating the fans precisely because they have just had their best season and are heading off to a new stadium with a much larger capacity. It is possible that the enquiry/bid was genuine but I am just being cynical.

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Cynical is healthy in my book.

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Originally Posted by selassie

We should name this thread "Suicide Watch", this place will be in meltdown come the end of the summer when Wenger is rummaging around the bargain bucket in Ligue Two looking for backup strikers to Giroud.

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I dont think the fans will be up in arms about a shitty transfer window. We all know what to expect from Wenger, so when the inevitable happens, it'll just be 'meh' rather than 'WTF'.

I think the simple prediction is, is that it will be more productive than last summer but ultimately we will end up not buying in a position we need to buy in.

The nearest thing for me that we had to a satisfactory summer under Wenger was when we brought in Podolski, Giroud and Cazorla......and then i thought fantastic don't get anyone else in, just don't lose anyone else.

But then we sold Van Prematuregrey and Song.

We should sign Dybala.