Wenger Referendum IV

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Originally Posted by mastermind84

you could go back to the Invincibles and a find a still this bad.

That play was all about poor implementation of tactics.

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Agreed. You could pick any eleven players in football today and you'd get the same result. Adams and Co were schooled in an entirely different environment and had plenty to cling on to once the Wenger regime took hold. But after 20 years the Wenger Way means nothing except his removal can solve the repetitive and uncorrected problems that plague every team he's ever put out. Wenger has his cast iron beliefs in terms of how football should be played. Those beliefs are unshakable, doesn't matter how many times he sees his philosophy ripped to shreds in a pub and rush PL match, he still won't compromise, he won't give an inch. Maybe he thinks the whole of football will change to his way of thinking. So we wait to see if that impossibility will happen. It's insane. As a football man he'd have been shunned years ago. But nobody can dispute his ability to turn shit into hard cash, certainly Kroenke doesn't question him. And that's the only reason why Wenger is still here.

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Originally Posted by Penguin

Yeah but you could go back to any season and find us defending set pieces like idiots. Wouldn't be surprised if we only spend 10 minutes in the week to practice them.

Look who's in the box in that picture - Koscielny, Mustafi, Welbeck, Ox, Theo etc. None of those lot have the kind of character to say 'nah can't be bothered to defend this'. But they're also typical Wenger players who let their heads drop when we're on a bad run. There's no leaders there telling everyone where they should be. Obviously nobody off the pitch is doing that either...

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Tactically, under Wenger, we're so bloody awful at both defending and attacking corners and we always have been. As someone mentioned, even for the invincibles it was never an outlet for scoring which is disgusting and abhorrent at our level.

We always wait for the opposition to get the first touch on a corner and therefore breathe a sigh of relief when the opposition play a short one. We never attack corners, even when we defend them we end up ball watching.

Taking the West Brom game as an example (it made for painfully obvious viewing when watching it in the stadium)...whenever WBA had an attacking corner, why didn't we leave Walcott or Sanchez, or, better still, both in the centre circle? This would draw their defenders who are more likely to score (and indeed did score) back rather than remain in the oppositions six Yard area. Furthermore, we could've employed the same tactic against Crystal Palace.

As far as the West Brom game goes, it was the difference between a draw and defeat

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

But nobody can dispute his ability to turn shit into hard cash, certainly Kroenke doesn't question him. And that's the only reason why Wenger is still here.

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tbh, is he still good at that?

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Originally Posted by mastermind84

tbh, is he still good at that?

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For the first time, perhaps the machine has stuttered.

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Originally Posted by mastermind84

tbh, is he still good at that?

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Nope, the TV deal has made the need for any profit from transfer dealings obsolete.

He's barely got any value for money from most of the signings he's made since 2013. Xhaka, Mustafi, Perez, Gabriel, Welbeck, Chambers, Debuchy, arguably Ozil. Hell of a lot money spent by our standards and Vermaelen is the only significant departure we've had in that period. The net spend is huge.

He can't be trusted with another 100m, he'll never extract the maximum quality from his signings because he's an average coach these days.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

For the first time, perhaps the machine has stuttered.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coZfzTcv4bA

In last four away games we have conceded more goals than in all our away games put together in 2001/2002

12 to 11

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

In last four away games we have conceded more goals than in all our away games put together in 2001/2002

12 to 11

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The inability to deal with our obvious defensive weaknesses is another glowing testament to Wengers capabiity as a manager. When you think that Ashley Cole was our last decent left back, Lee Dixon right back & Adams/Keown CB partnership - he's never got that stability since. Also says a lot about Bould & the lack of influence he either has or can give. Our weakness from set pieces has been obvious for years but he wants to buy 2nd rate ball playing 5ft 10 CB's which maay be OK in La Liga but not good enough to stand up to the direct football played in the Premier League.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hh28sPbJso

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Where is the die option in the poll?? :lol: