Match Reaction vs Fulham 10/11/12

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Originally Posted by Alpha

But Those who watched it should have told us if we were good offensively to score those goals and how we were awful defending . Most of post will tell you the team was shit but that has become a bit of monotony . We know the team is not clicking as we would like to but telling other people how the game was would help more than expressing our anger .

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Do you mean those that went to the game, or those who watched it on tv? If its the latter then its hard for anyone to make a judgement of a 3:00 kick off. you can't see the full game till later in the evening, and thats only if you have Sky etc.

I listened on the radio rather then find a stream, only knew what they saw me. I could not be bothered to sit though our match on sky just to see how we played. As you say we know the team is not clicking how we like. so until it does it will be the same thing over and over again.

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

Do you mean those that went to the game, or those who watched it on tv? If its the latter then its hard for anyone to make a judgement of a 3:00 kick off. you can't see the full game till later in the evening, and thats only if you have Sky etc.

I listened on the radio rather then find a stream, only knew what they saw me. I could not be bothered to sit though our match on sky just to see how we played. As you say we know the team is not clicking how we like. so until it does it will be the same thing over and over again.

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Thanks a lot . I meant both . Those who went to the game and those who watched it live on TV .
Normally , our post-match reaction should have been according to certain actions bad or good from our team or the other team . Someone should have described how it went on and event the referee performance can also be interesting . But you get people just saying it was shit without telling what made the game shit .

Alpha, it was a good game from the perspective that there were plenty of goals and that you sensed there always would be more to come.

However, the element of shit emanated from the lack of organisation and quality in both sides. Of real concern is our inability to be professional and composed when we have a lead. It is like the team collectively understand their defensive limitations which become magnified whenever we need to call upon defensive resolve.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

I don't agree with that. Most important attributes will always be touch and having good ball control technique. From old school players like Zidane, Del Piero, Robero Baggio, Rivaldo, Ginola, Gazza, Kanu to more recent like Berbatov, Ibrahimovic, Robinho even our boy Diaby, some aren't strong and most of them have a poor work rate but they can sit any defender on their ass with their dribbling skills. Work rate and strength.....Emile Hesky has that in abundance.

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the problem with football analysis is that it's always subjective. you think touch and having good ball control are the most important attributes, i can counter that and say well you can have the best touch in the world, but if you're weak you'll get pushed off the ball as soon as you get the ball, which means you dont have a chance to dribble. so poor strength can hinder you're ability to dribble. you can counter me and say well without a good touch you wont be able to control the ball in the first place to even attempt a dribble. you see its swings and roundabouts my friend, but i guess that's what makes it fun. wouldnt be good if we all had the same opinion now would it.

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Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner

the problem with football analysis is that it's always subjective. you think touch and having good ball control are the most important attributes, i can counter that and say well you can have the best touch in the world, but if you're weak you'll get pushed off the ball as soon as you get the ball, which means you dont have a chance to dribble. so poor strength can hinder you're ability to dribble. you can counter me and say well without a good touch you wont be able to control the ball in the first place to even attempt a dribble. you see its swings and roundabouts my friend, but i guess that's what makes it fun. wouldnt be good if we all had the same opinion now would it.

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So you think the best dribblers in the world started off by doing push ups and chin ups before learning how to control a ball?

I didn't see the game and didn't even watch the rerun on football first. And I'm not tempted to try to find a replay. 24 hours after I have zero interest in the game. I think a lot more football fans, as opposed to the thrilled to be here types, will feel the same by the end of this season,

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Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner

the problem with football analysis is that it's always subjective. you think touch and having good ball control are the most important attributes, i can counter that and say well you can have the best touch in the world, but if you're weak you'll get pushed off the ball as soon as you get the ball, which means you dont have a chance to dribble. so poor strength can hinder you're ability to dribble. you can counter me and say well without a good touch you wont be able to control the ball in the first place to even attempt a dribble. you see its swings and roundabouts my friend, but i guess that's what makes it fun. wouldnt be good if we all had the same opinion now would it.

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To be honest I don't think strength stops you dribbling, dribblers can beat players simply by sending them the wrong way they don't always need strength. I'm not saying being strong on the ball doesn't help, because clearly it does and will make you more effective but you can dribble past players without it as has been shown many times in the past by players like Limpar, Maradona, Juninho etc

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

So you think the best dribblers in the world started off by doing push ups and chin ups before learning how to control a ball?

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you're ability to generate a load of tosh from a post is quite an art.

you're analysing something way too deeply, as usual.

it was nothing more than a discussion branded with some subjective statements.

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

To be honest I don't think strength stops you dribbling, dribblers can beat players simply by sending them the wrong way they don't always need strength. I'm not saying being strong on the ball doesn't help, because clearly it does and will make you more effective but you can dribble past players without it as has been shown many times in the past by players like Limpar, Maradona, Juninho etc

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which was my point.

thanks for agreeing.

Sleep caught up with me and I did not watch the game as we get all games live over here. . .she mentioned that Berbatov was a handful and it was obvious that we had shot ourselves in the foot again. . .

I have not read through the majority of this thread but I can imagine the general direction. . .there was a point last season that I contemplated joining the Wenger Out crew, this year? Im not there yet but yiu have to admit we are not doing a good job in an area of the club.

I do think we really messed up this summer by not fully replacing those we lost, those that want to leave can go in my opinion but we have to bring in replacements, the squad lost more again and I dont see what Wenger thinks he can achieve, Santi Giro Pod should have been considered additions, RvP and Song going were to need more imports to cover. . .Berbatov may not have been the answer but I do think we tend to deceive ourselves with our current perception of what equates to Arsenal quality!