How anyone can side with Wenger on this is quite staggering.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
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How anyone can side with Wenger on this is quite staggering.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
He's making it up as he goes along. He lost his grasp on reality a long time ago, all this shit going on right under his nose and he's none the wiser. A shocking manager who is trying his best to destroy his legacy. Now there have been just as many years of anger and dissatisfaction as there have been of joy and excitement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
Yeah, and the good stuff is a decade in the past. Would be okay if it was the other way around. Which makes me wonder, if Wenger had performed in the first 10 years as he's done in these last 10, would he have been sacked? The answer is obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
So these "respect" people are saying 10 years of abject shit are tolerable because we're not making a football decision in the best interests of the club, we're making a sentimental decision that flies in the face of logic and reason. They could use the same logic to demand Wenger is retained after he dies. It would be disrespectful to find a more animated replacement because remember those first 10 years? Dead Arsene should be allowed to choose when he leaves. It's the same logic.
Oh I agree. This a seriously botched Window from Wenger, even by his low standards I don't think he has sunk as low as this before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Nobody takes him seriously anymore including his players.
If he had any decency he would tender his resignation right now because nobody wants him here.
I can't ever remember the club being in such a mess to be honest and for much of it we have one man to thank, the other part is down to the only man he answers to who we know doesn't give a toss about the club in any sporting sense, both of them making fans turn away from the club and dislike almost everything about it.
Out of pride though you'd think Wenger would do better, instead he ignores all logic and runs the club into the ground, ignoring all of the fans concerns all whilst endulging himself in this fantasy of the club he's created, where everything is perfect and where doing the opposite of what everyone else thinks is logical and where regular thumpings and your best players being out of contract is an ideal situation.
Not long till we're 2% away from domination surely?
We dominated the second half against Liverpool until the 3rd goal went in. Then we had to chase the game and it killed our chance. Very close match though, could have gone either way. I can see us dominating this season in a similar way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
If the players feel that way, it's down to the manager. He's the one who should be demanding excellence. Eventually they all end up feeling this way, the ones with something about them leave and the losers who know they'll never have it better stay.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
Wenger should be killed.
It's ironic though, the more pressure he is under from the fans the less he seems to care. The logical thing would have been to go out this summer and make a statement, try to raise his popularity by upeasing the fans and creating a positive vibe at the club, instead he does even less in the transfer market, starts getting rid of players we were never looking to sell and lets players who are key players for us walk away for a fraction of their value.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
Yeah just like last season when we won the 1st half when we los 5-1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Did we win the 2nd half apart from goal against Liverpool?
What would that achieve? Kroenke would still keep him on. Might inconvenience Ty a bit, he'd have to attend a permanent 24/ 7 vigil at the graveside. And Neville might make a few weird girly noises on TV. Other than that, nothing would change.Quote:
Originally Posted by GP
Begs the question that if we knew Ox was leaving why has he been playing every game if he's not going to be part of the club (apparently we knew he was out the door).
We now have another one of our better players going to a big English club, no other big club does this, should take a leaf out of Liverpools book and try saying no for once (maybe not when they only have 1 year left on their contract though).
That would suggest any of that is intended
Wenger is a purely reactive individual, hasn't been proactive with his approach in years. Buys a proven striker this summer after years and years of him seemingly knowing that's what we need.
Selling the likes of the Ox and Sanchez reactively because he realised we are going to actually lose them for nothing. I think he genuinely believed despite what has happened in the past that they would sign new contracts.
Mustafi took him by surprise.
Buying in the summer would suggest planning ahead, and the only thing he plans ahead with is for a future that never comes (the token 17 year old who gets offloaded about five years later).
Cause its clear Arsene never wanted himQuote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by hobson's choice
Perez like Mustafi & Gabriel was signings primarily driven by the data analytics team the club (StatDNA) instead being a player that Wenger personally chased. Which why Wenger's never taken a shine to any of those as has sold or is planning to sell them.
The real funny thing regarding Mustafi is that we could have signed Johnny Evans for 5 million last year but instead opted for Mustafi at 35 million instead. A year later we seem to be desperately trying to replace Mustafi for Evans who's now valued at least 25 million +.
You just got laugh really.
The agents certainly do.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
Can't recall where I read it this morning, but somebody was saying the reason we didn't sign Mbappe on a free a couple of years back was because we wouldn't pay the agents, who just so happened to be the family. 6 million quid was the figure mentioned.
Come on Arsenal sell at least 4 first team players, not including fringe players and don't buy anyone.
I would love to see that, and then 16th would be on.
Wenger would have to leave after that, surely.
Just think, if Arsenal had won at Anfield there would have been none of this, every cloud and all that.
So according to something I saw on another board. Wenger didn't want Lacazette, he was forced upon him
Is that the new "according to a bloke down the pub"?Quote:
Originally Posted by hobson's choice
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WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON
Sterling is tied down to a big money contract and Sanchez isn't
That's what's going on
Wouldn't be at all surprising. As I stated above, there have been other signings I know for a fact that he wasn't too thrilled with.Quote:
Originally Posted by hobson's choice
We easily could have had Lacazette done in any of the previous two summers yet didn't because Wenger was hopeful that this magical striker would pop up from nowhere that he could buy. So it's very plausible that he was a player that Wenger didn't really want and only signed because:
1) He was forced to by Ivan
2) He had no other option because there weren't any other gettable strikers.
Either way it stinks of a reluctant signing from Wenger and so a player that's not going to be one of his favourites that he persists with regardless (as seen with him being dropped to the bench against Pool).
True but Sanchez is 10 times the player and the whole world knows that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
If we end up being the ones having to shell out cash instead of the other way around then Dick Law and whoever else does the negotiations need to fuck off along with Wenger and Stan.
I would take Sterling plus cash for Sanchez as Sanchez doesn't want to be here and at least we would have another player on our books if it was straight cash we wouldn't spend it.
Cant believe we would pay money though as part of the swap.... we would look like total mugs (even more so than normal).
City don't need to do the deal thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
They can just get him to sign an agreement to join next summer
We could end up PAYING to lose Alexis to our rivals? :haha:
They've done it. I didn't think they could, but all credit to them. They've found a new rock bottom.
I hate to break it to you lads, but Sterling is shit. And he'll be even shittier in our team. If that rumour is true then we are on the verge of owning the worst piece of transfer business in the history of football.
This is shocking and hilarious and outrageous and awe inspiringly out there.
It can't possibly be true. It has to be a troll on the loose.
But it it is true...
OMFG.
Also, thread needs to be renamed. Misery doesn't even begin to do this justice.
Meanwhile, Mbappe will have medical today before completing loan move to PSG.
This deal is starting to look dead. I don't think we're signing him at all.
Apparently Man City may want Sanchez
I've already eaten, so I'll leave this for somebody else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dicks and chicks
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Originally Posted by Munchies
The sad thing is we are stupid enough to fall for this, paying City for their flop and giving them our best player!
Now the news is Sterling + 40 mill for Alexis.
Honestly, if this time last season you'd told me we'd be on the verge of losing Alexis I'd be depressed. But now tell me Sterling will end up here and I'm looking for the nearest bridge. This is the last waster we need at the club. It means our transfer business will be done, it's exactly the excuse the fuckers need to walk away from this window with a big fat profit.
Thee cunts are con merchants of the highest order.
Gibbs to WBA for £7m
thank fuck he's fucking off!
in before he turns down their contract
Peanuts really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
Though he hasn't really played enough to warrant any sort of attention over the past few years. Stock is pretty low.
Our summer in a nutshell for the last decade
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Perez may not be leaving after all. Arsenal are holding out for a 3 mill loan fee but nobody has taken them up on it so far, not anyone the Perez wants to join anyway. He could end up spending another year on the bench. Wonder what he thinks about his decision to join us on the Titanic?
Gibbs gone, great news, overrated rubbish just embarrassing he lasted this long at the club.
If we give City Sanchez and money for Sterling with the biggest mugs in world football, for a start Sterling isn't worth 60 million, secondly he's rubbish and we don't want him.
To be linked with Sterling and Evans is soooo underwhelming it's untrue, we'll be weaknening the team by signing those two, unfortunately this is Wenger and so the ridiculous is could very well be reality!
Not a bad thing for us, he's better than Welbeck and Walcott, him being forced to stay may work in our favour, it's not unusual for Wenger to stumble across a decent player through pot luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
So far all that seems to be happening is players leaving the club and us topping up our bank balance, as Wenger said though that keeps you very busy, not much time to spend on buying players we desperately need, not much time at all, summer transfer window is very short after all, barely time to blink.