Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

It looks like we already have players leaving. Wilshere and Gnarby plus Campbell has gone.

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True but even with that, add up the numbers in the squad we have and it adds up to 25

looks like for instance we are saddled with both debuchy and jenkinson

Our youth academy is dreadful, the last worldy to come out of there was Ashley Cole and that was probably before Wengers' 10 year plan (whatever happened to that), don't really trust us to discover any decent players at the moment.

Yes we've had a few overhyped players like Wilshere and Gibbs, but neither amount to much.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

It looks like we already have players leaving. Wilshere and Gnarby plus Campbell has gone.

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Loads have left, our squad is smaller than last season, Campbell, Rosicky, Arteta, Flamini, Chambers looks like Wilshere and Gnabry as well.

We've signed Perez, Mustafi and Xhaka and Holding (Asano can't play), so that's 7 out 4 in and Wellbeck is out long term as is Gabriel and Mertesacker.

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Originally Posted by Letters

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Originally Posted by Özim

Our youth academy is dreadful, the last worldy to come out of there was Ashley Cole and that was probably before Wengers' 10 year plan (whatever happened to that), don't really trust us to discover any decent players at the moment.

Yes we've had a few overhyped players like Wilshere and Gibbs, but neither amount to much.

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Name a world class player that has come out of the big four in this country over the past ten years? It's a symptom of the PL money spent every summer.

Our squad is currently Cech, Ospina, Martinez, Gibbs, Monreal, Koscielny, Mertesacker, Gabriel, Mustafi, Debuchy, Jenkinson, Bellerin, Elneny, Coquelin, Cazorla, Ozil, Ramsey, Xhaka, Ox, Walcott, Giroud, Perez, Welbeck, Alexis and Sanogo (25 players not including Wilshere and Gnabry)

Players like Akpom, Iwobi, Willock, Rene-Adelaide, Holding etc are presumably exempt because they are under a certain age

The problem is we are saddled with useless players that we can't even get rid of, on loan

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Originally Posted by Kano

Name a world class player that has come out of the big four in this country over the past ten years? It's a symptom of the PL money spent every summer.

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why are we expecting world class players to come out of the academy. they just need to produce good players that can play for arsenal. I always think of a world class player as someone who could get into any side in the world. In my mind that would only be Ozil at Arsenal. So therefore we don't need loads of world class players.

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Originally Posted by Özim

Loads have left, our squad is smaller than last season, Campbell, Rosicky, Arteta, Flamini, Chambers looks like Wilshere and Gnabry as well.

We've signed Perez, Mustafi and Xhaka and Holding (Asano can't play), so that's 7 out 4 in and Wellbeck is out long term as is Gabriel and Mertesacker.

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Cech/Ospina/Martinez
Bellerin/
Monreal/Gibbs
Koscielny/Mustafi/Holding/Gabriel(supposedly back in 3/4 weeks from now)/Merts
Coquelin/Xhaka/Elneny
Ozil/Ramsey/Cazorla
Walcott/Ox
Sanchez/Iwobi/The Jeff
Giroud/Perez/Wellbeck


Bellerin back up is the only concern if Debuchy leaves but add in a couple of wild cards and the numbers are there. We could debate the quality all day long but we've got rid of some deadwood in Flamini, Arterta, Rosicky, potentially Wilshere and Chambers too.

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Originally Posted by Bumble

why are we expecting world class players to come out of the academy. they just need to produce good players that can play for arsenal. I always think of a world class player as someone who could get into any side in the world. In my mind that would only be Ozil at Arsenal. So therefore we don't need loads of world class players.

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Yep, agree with that.