Can we use the "we make stars we don't buy them" excuse yet?
Or even "we don't want to do a Leeds"
Or perhaps "Chelsea are buying all the players so Wenger can't have them"
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Can we use the "we make stars we don't buy them" excuse yet?
Or even "we don't want to do a Leeds"
Or perhaps "Chelsea are buying all the players so Wenger can't have them"
Yeah it is peanuts, other clubs get 20 million for this rubbish players, ours are so rubbish we get 5-7 million only taken Wenger almost a decade to work out they aren't up to scratch though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Sky are reporting that we've rejected a 50m bid from City for Alexis.
In what sense is it "true"?! Is there any actual credible source for this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
It would be complete madness if we do that but I seriously doubt we will.
According to the BBC City have bid £50m
Yeah that is what I am hearing too. Apparently we want 70mill for him or Sterling to be included in the deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I think we'll fold in the end and sell him to them for around 60mill.
I doubt we'll finish top 4 with Sanchez here anyway so I honestly don't care if he stays or goes.
I said, It can't possibly be true. So, in some ways, I wasn't claiming it was true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Apart from the bit where you said "but it is true"...Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Seriously. Is this what we've come to now?
We're going to start losing our collective shit over things which are clearly bullshit and not going to happen?
Come on, lads. There's plenty to whine about if you're that way inclined, there is really no need to make up stuff.
Even if it's ultimately BS, the fact that people are prepared to believe the absolute worst about the people running the club and their competence is a damning indictment of the poor level people view these folks which is all from their own doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
In a perverse way, we hold all the cards here.
Alexis will have plenty of choices in January and his wage demands can be obscene because there's no fee involved. So the gypos might lose out if a Utd or a Bayern get interested. This is probably their best opportunity to get the player. I wouldn't think gypoland would be Alexis' first choice and if a better option was available he'd take it.
On the other hand, for the player, busting a gut trying to bail out a sinking ship for a another soul destroying season under the lunatic Wenger is hardly appealing. A whole season down the drain. Not ideal at this stage of his career and if he takes it easy then his stock might fall and he'll end up with fewer options in the summer. I'm sure he wants to get on and get back to doing what he does best.
So there's an incentive for both the gypos and the player to get this deal done.
Of course we're the drunken village bum who has fallen down a stairs, shit himself and woken in a pool of vomit only to discover we've coincidentally coughed up a key (we thought was a pretzel) to unlock what the gypos and Alexis are searching for. And we get to posture around in front of disgusted bystanders claiming we're keeping the prize for ourselves, even though we have no idea how to use it. But as soon as the pubs open again we'll fold and barter for as many drinks as we can get.
70 million, I'd guess. And, provided that turd Sterling is not coming the other way, I'd say that's the best way out of this now. Alexis doesn't want to be here (because he's sane and has a career to be getting on with), if we hung onto him it would give the club an excuse to do fuck all else in this transfer window. Which might happen anyway, they've never been shy about pissing on the fans for amusement. But at least it would expose more fans to the realities of what these people are. If anything has come out of the latest Kroenke and Wenger farce it's a drawing together of the fanbase into a more unified loathing of what's happening at this club.
Typo, you mong. I said "it" it is true. If you can't figure out that's supposed to be an "if" then you need to go and work with Wenger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
And I also didn't make it up. So thanks for the advice, I'll use it if it ever applies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Yes. You made a typo and I'm the mong. :good:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I see nothing has changed around here.... :lol:
I think you both can agree on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Seconded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall Quinn
I didn't mean you are a mong because I made a typo. I meant you're a mong for waiting so patiently to find the a post you thought was worth some holier than thou attention only to pick the least suitable post in the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Okay, so scrub my answer. I'm going with this one instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall Quinn
Exactly :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall Quinn
Hey! :angry:
So it looks like it's us that wants Sterling and the gypos don't want to let him leave. Trust Wenger to somehow dig another Walcott out of an already bad situation.
Daily Fuhrer is also reporting the Ox deal has stalled, but they don't say why. Probably Wenger trying to reverse the fax charges again.
From the rumours it honestly seems that Alexis actually wants to stay in the Premier League and London which means that the Gypos are likely his second choice behind the Chavs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
But yeah I agree with the sentiment of your post - we hold a lot more leverage here then some think. City and Pep are clearly desperate for him and keeping him risks other clubs gazumping them with a mega money contract offer. Hence why that Sterling + cash supposed offer is purely laughable.
Mail is saying Wenger has resolved to sell any player that wants to leave, following a heated meeting on Monday. In the context of this club I'm taking "heated" to mean the central heating was turned up. Gentlemen, we have the option of making a lot of profit or taking a loss, please vote now. And a warm glow was felt by all.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
This will make keep him batting at 100% for claiming he's not selling, only to sell at the last minute. Consistency.
But that game on Sunday sealed it, if ever there was any real doubt. There's nothing to be gained from hanging on to Alexis. At least we have good experience in milking the gypos. Last I heard they are so desperate to to get rid of Nasri they are offering to pay his wages if he pisses off.
These two clubs were made for each other.
Still don't get why City are interested when Guardiola is reported to have found a few of his traits majorly annoying at Barca and City have loads of attacking players with Sterling, De Bruyne, Silva, Aguero and Jesus.
They'll be competing on two major fronts so will need quality in reserve. Injuries, suspensions, loss of form, tactical options. None of that will make much sense to us, or at least it's something we don't have to worry about. But other clubs take it all very seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
Ornstein says Oxlade has turned Chelsea down as he still holds out hope of joining us :popcorn:
The main reason being he wants to play centre mid, not wing back which he thinks will happen at Chelsea too. Hmm.
You'll need to hand deliver the offer. Our fax has been broken for the last 20 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Firmino Is Boss
Or they could just graffiti it on the Ken Friar Bridge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
"Arsenal are the first club in history where the manager loses the dressing room and we get rid of the dressing room rather than the manager"
- someone on Twitter
:lol:
:ilt:
Chelsea have bid ten million lower for Barkley than they did for the Ox
Exaggerated I know, but you do feel this is a uniquely Arsenal situation :lol:
Doesn't surprise me, Wenger doesn't have a clue when it comes to signing quality these days, if he does bring quality in it's more a case of stumbling across it. Moreover with leaving everything so late and having no plan of who to sign in the first place he now has to bring in anyone he can, it's typical of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Apparently many members of the squad want Sanchez to be sold, if you read the article it's as if they partly blame him for Sunday's defeat:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/...chez-transfer/
Must have been reading Wengers' book of excuses.
I don't think any manager would be especially competent at it, that's why most clubs leave it to a dedicated negotiating team.
That's the first thing that has to be established when Wenger goes, a manager does not get to set the transfer value of a player, if he wants a player then he leaves it to the club to set the price they are prepared to pay.
The managers only involvement should be to sell the club to the player to say "join our project"
Gibbs has been sold, great stuff.:yippee:
It's totally unreasonable of Sanchez. We just want a quiet life waddling around a pitch for ninety minutes. And this guy thinks we should be running our arses off to win games without extra money.....who does he think he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this has been falsely leaked by the club. After all, the Club would love nothing more than painting Sanchez as the villain now he is forcing a move to join a team that is ambitious and actually tries to compete for trophies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
I reckon Sanchez is a bit of a cunt but I don't see what's wrong with being demanding and having high standards. Our poor little lambs just want to be cuddled and told everything is going to be alright.
If we had more characters like him then maybe we wouldn't be such a mentality weak team. No doubt he will be painted as the villain when he leaves.
Is he going to leave in this transfer window though? When we've rejected 50million for him
Are city going to go higher? Would we accept an equivalent offer from PSG?
It seems City have probably spoken to Sanchez's representatives and have chanced their arm because we are in a mess
Sell sell sell sell.
Sell them all and don't you dare buy anyone Wenger, I want the new manager to have 250 million to spend when he takes over next summer.
Surely Ozil has to go as well, he is a complete fairy.
Another player who could have developed into something if he had more ambition than slumming around with bad company like Wenger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim