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Originally Posted by Niall Quinn
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No, the club has strict orders to ignore anything that appears there. New policy. Keep up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall Quinn
I bet they want him sold. Who needs a guy running around all over the place? Calm down and take the money. Bit of dignity lads. Gentlemen walk, they never run. We don't need his sort here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
If we'd have signed Vidal when he was available we'd be in a totally different boat now and it would be half these lambs that had been slaughtered. Vidal was probably the last realistic chance for Wenger to do something. After that miss and another round of buying second rate junk it was inevitable where we'd end up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Vidal and Alexis in tandem could have beaten Wenger. I'm sure of it.
He's definitely leaving. It makes no sense for any party if he stays now. This is just the greedy bastards at our place milking as hard as they can. Under normal circumstances you'd say great, good job. But none of it will be reinvested anyway. From a fan's point of view £1 or £70 million, makes no difference. This will probably go to the last moments before the deadline, or knowing us it will be one of those extension thingies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
I still don't discount Ozil leaving too. Surely he can see what's happening here and if he wants his career to continue he needs to get out now. One more season here in the shambles to come may devalue him to such a degree he has to live in Turkey.
Sky reporting that Sterling won't be considered by City as part of any move for Sanchez.
No matter how dark, there's always a silver lining.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
This has to be the funniest headline of the season so far:
So that's why our season has collapsed. I knew it!Quote:
Arsenal players wants Alexis Sanchez sold ASAP as wantaway contract rebel sours the mood and threatens Gunners season
Other than that, all is well. Whew!
Reports saying we are also trying to hawk Alexis to Man Utd.
Dignity is a thin veneer. Scratch the surface and it all becomes rather horrible and crawly and putrid.
I'm definitely going to believe what Wenger and Gazidis say the next time they open their gobs and start preaching.
Look at them in the dirt and the shit, rolling around trying to grab as much cash as they can.
If we get rid quick, the League is ours!
I wonder though if we have the depth in squad to win the Europa League as well?
Or maybe we should just concentrate on a clean sweep of the domestic trophies.
It makes no sense to not have had him sold by now and it still happenedQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Frankly with two days left of the window I think it's far more likely that we end up saddled with two players who don't want to be here come Friday morning that we almost certainly lose for nothing next year.
What a mess, look at what Wenger has done to this club, it's shocking to be honest, any good he did has been undone 10 times over, his legacy will be leaving this club in a terrible mess and turning it into a loser.
Just can't believe what's happened to this once great club, there's nothing left of what it was.
I keep forgetting the worst case scenario. That's why I don't get paid as much as Wenger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
So are we signing Jonny Evans or not?
This transfer window will all have been for nothing if we don't rub it in by signing Jonny Evans.
:haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Johnny Evans and Salamon Kalou and we will be firm challengers for a top 10 finish
He doesn't want to come here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Another problem at this club (and there's so much wrong it's untrue) is that we're so secretive, we should have made our offers for our out of contract players early on and if they didn't accept them sold them there and then, instead we pretended we were confident they'd sign, we were waiting on him etc and now we could lose two of our better players with noone lined up.
Where is the planning at this club, for years it's been the same no planning come the summer, we drag on transfers deals for an entire summer what is wrong with these people?
We really really need Wenger to go, who knows what state we'll be in in 2 years when he signs another new contract.
I agree with all of the criticisms of Wenger on here, this is why Arsenal must have a very bad season now where they finish 16th or 17th and no fuck all cup win.
I know it will be painful but then surely Wenger will leave, it was bad last season and they finished 5th, just imagine how painful it will be for everybody with a 17th place finish.
Next summer a new manager will be here surely.
Not true. The club has been very forthcoming. Here's a press release issued by Arsenal Press Secretary John Cross.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...field-11077745
Well worth the read. Bottom line is Alexis has shafted this club. Wenger (the Boss) is doing everything he can to hold things together but Alexis is determined to destroy Arsenal, along with several other players. People like Alexis just don't have Wenger's drive and passion.
On a more positive note, Mesut Ozil stated he's not upset having lost his scapegoat status. He confirmed he was happy to share the role if it helped the club and the manager wriggle free of accountability.
Honestly. Read the article by Comrade Cross. It explains everything.
Liverpool on their way to Monaco to negotiate a 74 million deal for Lemar allegedly
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4836188/Liverpool-FC-officials-fly-Monaco-Thomas-Lemar-deal.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=149 0
I don't get it, aren't they putting in some lowball offers in first? I thought that was the way you do it?
They might be playing the agent game. Get the deal done with the club and the player, then refuse to pay the agent. That's a very effective way to scupper a deal. Let's say the agent wants 5 million. Offer him 3 million and not a penny more. I guarantee, this is usually enough to prevent the expenditure and it keeps the fans happy right up until the final moment and then beautifully deflects the blame.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Knowing Liverpool though, they're probably going to fuck it right up and find themselves lumbered with a young and exciting talent that will add greatly to their squad.
Let's hope Monaco don't sell.
Otherwise we're stuck with Ox.
Gibbs says goodbye:
Never fulfilled his potential here (join the club) but I can't recall him ever bad mouthing the club or causing off the field issues and he's gone about getting his transfer quietly and without enlisting the media. So good luck to him.Quote:
'Firstly I would like to say how delighted I am to sign for West Brom.
'It has been an amazing journey to play for my childhood club since I was 14. I would like to thank Arsene Wenger for giving me the chance to start my career and fulfil a dream!
'Thank you to all the fans, the Arsenal staff, and especially my team-mates who have been there during the special moments and helped me through some tough times.
'Now it's time for the next chapter with West Bromwich Albion and I can't wait to get started with the boys.'
Interesting stat on Debuchy from another forum
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Over the last 3 seasons he has collected nearly £11m in wages for making 23 appearances.
Cashes over half a million in wages per 90 minutes of football played.
Nice guy and all that but awful defender, right from day 1 you could tell he couldn't defend but then he started life as winger so it's no real surprise. Sadly he couldn't cross either, nice guy and all that but definitely not good enough for a top club, ridiculously injury prone as well, if you touched him he would get injured for a 2 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Wenger chose to stick with him for years but the guy was really never up to the task, remember when we signed the 5 British players on long contracts (Jenks, Ox, Wilshire, Gibbs and Ramsey), thought it was a stupid move and it's turned out that way.
None of them have cut the mustard and other than Ramsey none have a future at the club. Waste of resources and waste of time tbh.
Can't blame the player one bit. Wouldn't anyone take the money? All down to Wenger again. He has such a talent for finding the most injury prone players and signing them up to long and lucrative contracts. The Diaby saga has to be one of the biggest jokes in sporting history. But there are plenty of other Wenger classics, Debuchy being one of them. A player who doesn't play and earns a fortune in return. I wonder why we can't sell him? Complete mystery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Apparently we can't get rid of Jenkinson either. Negotiations keep stalling because everyone assumes his wages are a misprint.
All true.Quote:
Arsene Wenger has dug Arsenal into a hole they cannot get themselves out of... from the egocentric manager to gutless owners, this is the club's worst transfer window in recent history
Gunners fan Peter Wood from Le Grove writes for Sportsmail on a turbulent week and an even worse transfer window at Arsenal.
Make no mistake, Arsenal are overseeing the worst transfer window in the recent history of the club, and damn, there's been some bad ones. This debacle is 10 years in the making and it all centres around Arsene Wenger’s ineptitude, lack of vision and his failure to learn from past mistakes.
As it stands, six players stand to leave on free transfers next summer with a market value of over £100m. The club has known about this impending disaster all year, and did little to navigate it.
In fact, Arsene Wenger played up the issue as a positive, stating: ‘It is not an issue, I think it's an ideal situation.’
This comment was made all the more absurd after he pinned last season's decline on his own contract saga when he said: ‘I think at some stage I did not think it would be a handicap for my commitment and it was not. But it was a bit of a handicap because it created a climate of insecurity and a lack of clarity about my person that maybe did not help at some stage.’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...er-window.html
Very true, sure Wenger has made a profit etc etc but he's wasted so many resources at the same time, we've probably paid for injured players more than any other club in the hisotry of football in the last decade.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
You're right about Wenger picking injured duds too, I guess it must have something to do with training methods/coaching and the fact we always seem to sign small weak players when what we should be doing is going back the old days of tough, resilient individuals not afraid to get stuck in, players who don't get injured at the mere touch of an opponent.
Jamie Redknapp summed it up well, powderpuff.
Great article, but hoping he'll leave next summer is wishful thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Only an empty stadium will facilitate that and there's no appetite for this in reality, I can't see an end to this, in two years he'll probably re-sign on, he did this summer despite the fans wanting him out, so what will 2 years change?
By then what will the club look like?
Was never a great defender, too reliant on his pace for recovery. Under a structured system with Pulis he might still have time to improve.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Wish him well. :wave:
tbf to the club RE the Debauchy situation, it was the right move at the time. Experienced RB to replace the departing Sagna ..... no one knew that Bellerin would emerge from nowhere and that Debauchy's form would suffer as a consequence of that.
By all accounts we have tried to flog him and made it abundantly clear that he's got no place in the squad ..... don't really blame the club for that one.
I know Wenger's moronically started him in the past three games but surely Ox himself knows he can't remain at the club having essentially burnt all his bridges with his Pool performance and by publicly angling for a move. :blink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Granted ordinarily I don't think that Wenger would have the cajones to do it, but given the few tidbits we know about the club meeting on Monday where he concluded to get rid of any player that didn't want to be here, you'd think Wenger would isolate Ox from the squad and force him to play with the youth team if he dared to stick around after all this has been concluded.
Petit thinks we should sign Mahrez to replace the wingers that run in a straight line
http://metro.co.uk/2017/08/30/arsena...ngers-6890394/
Do you really think it was a crisis meeting that changed Wenger's mind? Or do you think that the most notorious cash sucking club on the planet never had any intention of losing big next year when our squad jumps overboard? This is all Arsenal FC spin facilitated by pathetic worms like John Cross. Nobody at Arsenal FC has the guts, or the decency, to make a public announcement. Instead these rumours of closed door meetings have surfaced in the most convenient manner.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
The 70 mill deal for Alexis has been set up for weeks. Everyone knew that figure and, as if by magic, we are approaching the figure. Ox said he wanted to go months ago. Arsenal Representatives already had a quiet chat with Barca to shift Ozil.
You look at the profit that's going to be taken in this window. Almost reminds me of a sellout before a bust. But there's no bust at this particular club. We have declined steadily as a football team for 10 years and during the same period our cash balance at the bank has risen 500%, all so we could get super cheap terms from the banks and boost the balance sheet which in turn has boosted the share value. That's what it's all about at this place. It's only the fans and a decreasing number of the players who believe this is about football and success on the pitch.
These players were always leaving and, because they are our prize assets, I wouldn't think it strange or far fetched if stories emerged we'd deliberately run down their contracts. That certainly seems to be the case with Ox, at least. This unprecedented bout of insanity might only appear insane to those who don't have all the facts. And that would be us, the fans.
Petit's a loser who won titles and world cups. He hasn't even made 50,000 substitutions or lied to fans for a decade about stadium moves and phantom transfers. Why would anyone take him seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
French prickQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Doesn't sound like this deal would be in any way possible. Player is for sale. He wants to come here. We have the money. Verging on impossible. Plus he's a disciplined and experienced central midfielder and we desperately need to fill that position base on recent showings. So we don't really need him.Quote:
Jean-Michael Seri wants to join a big European club like Arsenal or Liverpool after his dream move to Barcelona collapsed.
Seri, who has a £36million release clause, remains hopeful of securing a summer move and name dropped two English clubs when asked about his future.
I want to be optimistic and think that there are still options, Seri told Spanish outlet Mundo Deportivo.
Let the two clubs talk quietly again and come to an agreement. We are not talking about any club, where you are going to sign for money.
I want to sign for a big European clubs, like Juventus, PSG, Arsenal, Borussia Dortmund, Liverpool.
For example, Roma, has made several offers. I have spoken many times with Monchi and this transfer has not occurred either because of economic reasons.
Fuck, fuck, fuck! How can we avoid signing this guy? Somebody come up with something fast FFS! We're not going to let this slip with just a few hours to go before the window shuts.
Meanwhile Alexis' representatives are in talks with Man Utd. God, it's depressing. Very, very depressing.
Don't fall for the all too convenient smear campaign. A month ago we were in the ideal situation and trendsetters! Other clubs will follow us into the sunlight and low players to run down their contracts! ;)
Yes, I know, as well you know. But why do we have to go first? And what if the other lot cheat and start signing their players up?Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
Sagna's available on a free.
Honestly wouldn't be opposed to getting him in as cover at RB/RWB assuming Ox is gone.