Winter Transfer Speculation and Shit.

And Essien completes his medical. :lol:

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Originally Posted by Özim

Maybe it is, but it's more your viewpoint that Mourinho was unprovoked that I'm confused about. Wenger categorically talked about his team, pointing out how unfair it was, it's not really surprising the manager of that team might be irritated by this.

It's like me calling someone a d*ck but saying it's not their fault it's because of society, it would still be annoying.

As I said before you can make your point about something without the need to rub someone up the wrong way, what Wenger said was always going to cause a reaction, I'm just surprised people think this isn't normal.

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It shouldn't be a shock if you know the sort of character your dealing with.

When Plantini was attacking our transfer policy, I didn't see why he had to constantly mention our team even though he had a valid point. Made him seem bitter.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

When Plantini was attacking our transfer policy, I didn't see why he had to constantly mention our team even though he had a valid point. Made him seem bitter.

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Yeah totally agree, when you use a certain team as an example if makes it sounds as if they are a big part of the problem.

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Originally Posted by Coutinho Is Boss

And Essien completes his medical. :lol:

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With your mob?

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Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over

With your mob?

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Good god no.

AC Milan.

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Originally Posted by Coutinho Is Boss

And Essien completes his medical. :lol:

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:lol:

Milan are desperate that they'd sign him. He's had dodgy knees for nearly 5 years.

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Arsenal will complete the Julian Draxler deal tonight [Al Jazeera]

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Originally Posted by Syn

Wenger wasn't kidding - you guys are delusional.

Reporter: "pretty much a done deal for draxo then?"
Arsene: "Nah."
Reporter: "upfront for the saints game then yeah?"
Arsene: "What? No, I'm not spending £37m on an attacking mid".
Reporter: "gonna give him the no. 14 shirt now that Theo's dead?"
Arsene: "I'm not buying him."

Arsenal fans: "omg he smiled!!!!"'

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:haha:

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Originally Posted by Coutinho Is Boss

Good god no.

AC Milan.

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Phew....huh?

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Originally Posted by Coutinho Is Boss

Good god no.

AC Milan.

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AC Milan is equivalent to PL's Crystal Palace IMO, picking up freebies and left overs. :lol:

Cardiff are getting Zaha on loan, Fabio da silva and Kenwyn Jones.

Laughable that Tan wouldn't five Malky MacKay any transfers in January and lets Soljkdjeiejsr get new players in. Gives them a fighting chance to stay up at least. Zaha should be good.

Wenger :doh:

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

I understand his argument but I disagree with it.

If we had an under performing player sitting on our benches and causing problems in the ranks because he's upset about not playing, I'd want him out.

We also have an opportunity to strengthen our squad with a striker if we're willing to put in the work and that boosts our chances of winning the title. We should be taking advantage of it.

Wenger's appeal to the media and using Chelsea as an example is a bad idea. It's like when Platini kept on using us as an example of why the under 16s contract situation had to change. I understood his argument and agree that big clubs shouldn't be able to sign up young players before they've signed professional contracts with their home clubs, but we operated within the rules. Platini constantly mentioning us made me think he had a problem with Wenger and our club. He was spot on with his argument though and as a UEFA representative, he's within his rights to say such things and change the rules.

Wenger is talking to media pundits about a rival club and they have no power to change the rules, they have no interest of changing the rules and they take press opportunities to spin stories and sensationalise. What else did he think would happen when he goes on to talk again about Chelsea's transfers? Didn't he learn from the whole 'voyeurism' saga with Jose? They have no interest in his philosophy. I guy with his experience should know by now that he's being set up for a trap and that's if he has no intention of digging at Chelsea. Take this sort of think to the decision makers like the FA, UEFA and FIFA. Not to swine in form of he press.

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I have really thought about this issue, and I have to say that I think I know where Wenger is coming from. I remember going onto Blue Moon a while back and trying to argue with a bunch of real twats about why what the likes of Citeh and Chelsea are doing to football is fundamentally different to what we have been able to do in the past as a so-called 'big' club. It may sound like sour grapes - and maybe there's some truth in that if you are a smaller EPL club. But what Arsenal has never been able to do is to stockpile 30M plus players, and use their transfers to try to hurt the competition. In Citeh's case (and Real Madrid; Barca fall into this category), their spending power has distorted the market so much that even Europe's traditional big clubs can't compete. In Chelsea's case - I have no doubt that Mata's sale was indeed agreed to by Mourinho because it might mean a point or two against Chelsea's competitors. I am sorry, but when financially doped clubs start to be able directly to influence leagues in ways that are unrelated to performance on the pitch, football starts to die.

We're linked with Sebastien Jung (German RB in the Bundesliga)

Seems like Sagna is off ? :unsure:

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Originally Posted by IBK

I have really thought about this issue, and I have to say that I think I know where Wenger is coming from. I remember going onto Blue Moon a while back and trying to argue with a bunch of real twats about why what the likes of Citeh and Chelsea are doing to football is fundamentally different to what we have been able to do in the past as a so-called 'big' club. It may sound like sour grapes - and maybe there's some truth in that if you are a smaller EPL club. But what Arsenal has never been able to do is to stockpile 30M plus players, and use their transfers to try to hurt the competition. In Citeh's case (and Real Madrid; Barca fall into this category), their spending power has distorted the market so much that even Europe's traditional big clubs can't compete. In Chelsea's case - I have no doubt that Mata's sale was indeed agreed to by Mourinho because it might mean a point or two against Chelsea's competitors. I am sorry, but when financially doped clubs start to be able directly to influence leagues in ways that are unrelated to performance on the pitch, football starts to die.

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A fair point and I suspect the same thing with Jose. But I don't think Wenger has a leg to stand on when we participate and sell our best players to the last three Prem title winners. I'm also unsure of what he's trying to achieve with these moments.

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Originally Posted by Özim

Maybe it is, but it's more your viewpoint that Mourinho was unprovoked that I'm confused about. Wenger categorically talked about his team, pointing out how unfair it was, it's not really surprising the manager of that team might be irritated by this.

It's like me calling someone a d*ck but saying it's not their fault it's because of society, it would still be annoying.

As I said before you can make your point about something without the need to rub someone up the wrong way, what Wenger said was always going to cause a reaction, I'm just surprised people think this isn't normal.

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pellegrini did the same.

He may have explained himself slightly better but he started off by talking about Chelsea specifically and also questioned the fairness of it.

Yet moron doesn't mention him or moan about him at all.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

A fair point and I suspect the same thing with Jose. But I don't think Wenger has a leg to stand on when we participate and sell our best players to the last three Prem title winners. I'm also unsure of what he's trying to achieve with these moments.

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But there is a massive massive difference. All those players forced a move against the wishes of at least the manager, don't know about the board.

"A deal for Draxler is in the offing. That's what we're hearing here at Sky Sports News." - Jim White

https://vine.co/v/Mubp2wuAtOY

In the offing? :bow:

He's on his way!

Jim White knows his stuff. :unsure:

Honigstein said on BT that we were negotiating with Schalke too, apparently.

Ads on sky are just ludicrous. Hundreds of channels spouting ads with little breaks for TV progs. Think I'll get rid of it. Only usually watch footie so forgot how bad subscription TV is.

And now they keep losing the 'crunch clashes' to BT, they can't push their BLitW agenda with quite so much gusto.

Must say I am little bit shocked but pleased we are willing to spunk 30m+ on a promising 20 year old.

Times have certainly changed.

Lol, Cabaye saga. Which Newcastle player should we put in a lowball bid for on 31st? Can't pass up another opportunity to piss off creepy.

Kenwyne jones to Cardiff.

wenger :doh:

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Originally Posted by IBK

I have really thought about this issue, and I have to say that I think I know where Wenger is coming from. I remember going onto Blue Moon a while back and trying to argue with a bunch of real twats about why what the likes of Citeh and Chelsea are doing to football is fundamentally different to what we have been able to do in the past as a so-called 'big' club. It may sound like sour grapes - and maybe there's some truth in that if you are a smaller EPL club. But what Arsenal has never been able to do is to stockpile 30M plus players, and use their transfers to try to hurt the competition. In Citeh's case (and Real Madrid; Barca fall into this category), their spending power has distorted the market so much that even Europe's traditional big clubs can't compete. In Chelsea's case - I have no doubt that Mata's sale was indeed agreed to by Mourinho because it might mean a point or two against Chelsea's competitors. I am sorry, but when financially doped clubs start to be able directly to influence leagues in ways that are unrelated to performance on the pitch, football starts to die.

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Balanced post.

Although I'm not sure the motives of Mourinho selling him are relevant and while what you say is true, it's not even what Wenger was hinting at. The logic of his reasoning is very simple. If you are able sell players mid-season where they have and have not played certain teams, there's more potential for these sort of strategic actions.

It's not just about the January transfer window either. The summer window doesn't shut until after the season starts, so he has been campaigning for that to stop for years too: http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...-close-earlier

That's certainly a big joke, the season kicking off without anyone knowing what the final squads are. Why would they even allow it! What could possibly be wrong with closing the window the day before kick off?

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

That's certainly a big joke, the season kicking off without anyone knowing what the final squads are. Why would they even allow it! What could possibly be wrong with closing the window the day before kick off?

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Wenger wouldn't be able to tell us it doesn't shut until the 31st of August?

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And now they keep losing the 'crunch clashes' to BT, they can't push their BLitW agenda with quite so much gusto.

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This.

For example, there's a round of premier league fixtures on Tuesday/Wednesday and Sky are showing a grand total of zero games live. We pay 40 quid a month.

That isn't bad. It's fucking shocking.

Have we signed any/all the playa yet?


Draxler's our man this window. Has to be tbh, looks sharp and quick, would fit into our style of play perfectly.

He reminds me of Cesc mixed with RVP.

Should be good!

What time is this supposed press conference today?

Man ure will be significantly improved if they get Cabaye on top of Mata. IMO Cabaye is the best central midfielder in the league.

From the videos ive seen of the Drax, he's got a shot on him and makes some good froward runs.

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Originally Posted by Özim

The problem with you is you're unable to read between the lines either, if someone uses the term "unfair" it suggests someone is getting favourable treatment, not the case in this scenario.

Wenger talked about Chelsea, specified how it was unfair (i.e they unfairly gained an advantage) and how they could have sold him last week (why would they?) and have played Man U twice. Please explain to me what those two comments have to do with the rules?

He could have just said he doesn't think the January transfer window should exist without mentioning the rest, that would have been totally fine.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

That's certainly a big joke, the season kicking off without anyone knowing what the final squads are. Why would they even allow it! What could possibly be wrong with closing the window the day before kick off?

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The difficulty there is that the leagues have different start dates.

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He's got a shot on him with both feet too! I really like the look of the lad - from parts of those clips you can see he'd fit in well with the give-and-go style we play when things get tighter, but he also has fantastic balance and tight control when dribbling for a big lad - I love the way he sees gaps and just powers through them. Looks like he'd be dangerous whether we're pressing opponents or hitting them on the counter.

In all honesty, if we did sign him now, I wouldn't be surprised if it was next season before we really saw the best from him (although I still think he could contribute this season), but he's got such huge potential, I think we should just get him secured if the chance is there to get him - he's already performing at a CL level, but given another couple of years I think he could be a monster...

Reports saying Chelsea have a verbal agreement to sign Diego Costa.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Reports saying Chelsea have a verbal agreement to sign Diego Costa.

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Another case of spiteful stockpiling, though I can't see how Athletico would release him, unless Torres is in part exchange. Knowing Mourinho, he could buy Costa and still keep all his other strikers

They can stockpile all they want. I think they’ll have trouble shifting those shit strikers.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Reports saying Chelsea have a verbal agreement to sign Diego Costa.

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fuck off you cunts.

Oh well, Suarez £70m release clause in the summer when Liverpool finish outside the top 4 :good:

Chelsea are fucking scum.

Chelsea need a striker so it's no surprise they are being linked to one, they're current forwards aren't really scoring so it's a case of finding a decent one rather than stockpiling.

As for Costa, not a fan so not bothered if he goes elsewhere.

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fuck off you cunts.

Oh well, Suarez £70m release clause in the summer when Liverpool finish outside the top 4 :good:

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He’d fit in at Chelsea. A new Drogba for Mourinho. I hope the reports are false but nothing we can do about it. We just have to look for the sort of players that will make our team better.