If the Suarez signing is any indicator then our targets will be run of the mill. I'm guessing a lot will depend on CL qualification.
On Suarez; is he Emery's Kim Kallstrom? What a pointless signing. :lol:
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If the Suarez signing is any indicator then our targets will be run of the mill. I'm guessing a lot will depend on CL qualification.
On Suarez; is he Emery's Kim Kallstrom? What a pointless signing. :lol:
At this moment in time we have no idea what the plans are for next season... Suarez? Hope this isn't the level we are looking for personally I don't think so Emery I would assume has players in mind and know's more regarding the financial situation so :pray:
Manolas is the only high profileish player I can name we would be able to afford in the best case scenario of qualifying For the CL. Can’t think of too many others unless one of the big clubs are keen on selling cast offs for less than 40 mill.
If they want to keep Son, Kane, Erricsson etc, they will have to bump up their wages. Makes sense they will have a much higher wage bill soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
Or lose them.
I think Son is such a massive player for them. Really wish they didn't have him.
Yes Son is quality.
I’m hoping they suffer as we did when we had to sell our best players to pay the mortgage.
Eriksen is coming up to his last year. Alderweirdo can leave for £25m I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
I'd rather they kept both and lost Son....but yes you are right.
Eriksen’s their most important player I think - they don’t have a replacement and players like him aren’t easy to find.
I think there’s room to keep some of those expensive / older guys on, and I don’t think we’ll see all of them go, but I wouldn’t be shocked if we accepted offers for (or simply released) many of them. I can see there being one or two shocks there, if the right offer came in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
(And, unfortunately, I also think that the one or two older players that I’d choose to keep might want one final move back to their home countries this summer to see out their careers?)
The bottom line is there’s far too much fat on that wage bill and we need to get our operation leaner. When you look at the return we’re getting from guys like Torreira, Gendouzi, Holding and AMN who are probably on about half the money that we’re paying some of their competition, there’s gains to be had everywhere. Even if we can’t afford to shop at the de Ligt end of the market, we should still be expecting the people running this club to move us forward - Christ, even if all we do is bring players of a similar standard on less money who can handle away days, that would be something...
What’s happening on the technical director job, or whatever we’re calling it? Monchi and Overmars can’t have been the only names on the list? Someone st the club needs to get a grip, if that Suarez loan is anything to go by...Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I think as you suggest any number of players could go.....but the departures will be mitigated by the fact that eventually you need to shut the out door and start replacing them which in itself is costly.Quote:
Originally Posted by I am invisible
I think Koscielny specifically (as I thought with Santi) is worth making it worth his while to stay, but as he was looking to leave last summer, I wouldn't be surprised if he left this summer.
Sanchez was the man for us for away games and in that respect we still haven't replaced him. My main worry when Emery came here was his horrible away record in Spain so I hope the trend does not continue too long.
Nicolo Barella is one of the only players we've been linked to that looks like he can move to the next level, though i think he looks a bit too similar to Torreira. Umtiti I've never rated anywhere near as much as most.
Can't really think of many players affordable that will get us where we want to go.....but I'm not a professional scout.
we certainly wont be boosting the coffers by selling Mustafi, who in the right mind would buy him.... well maybe west ham.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
His away record in Spain was fine for the teams he managed - Valencia had the third best and Sevilla 4/5 - he did have one car crash season when they didn’t win away at all. Until we sort out the squad it will be hard to tell if it’s the players or the manager that struggle away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
Yes, that was the part that concerned me. I do think he tends to have an overly cautious approach away from home, but I think he is more willing to learn than other managers so I live in hope that he becomes more positive in this regard.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMatthews
Also if we were looking for a right back....which we aren't or probably won't be...... Aaron Wan-Bisaka is it.
He really is the real deal. A little simple going forward, but absolutely the real deal.
IMO you should spend big and bring quality like Liverpool have done, for years we've scrimped and in turns wasted large amounts on cheaper players who don't work out, people scoffed at Liverpool paying for Van Dijk, now he's probably worth 2-3 times as much and is seen as if not the best, one of the best defenders in the world.
On top of that if you sign a big name, he pays back his transfer fee on merchandising alone, never mind all the rest.
Agree to an extent. If your recruiting staff back their judgement on a player that can take you to the next level.....then show it by paying a decent sum occasionally. Obviously we don't have 75 mill to spend on one player but we have paid big money for forwards and the same may be needed for a defender.
I remember before Aguero was signed by City It was pretty obvious he had the qualities to be a top player in the prem or at a top club. But he wasn't flavour of the month and there were other more fashionable players around and no team backed themselves by putting down a large fee for him until City did. We know how that turned out. He was obviously the best player outside of Real and Barca at the time....just as Santi was one of the best players outside the top clubs when we signed him.
Obviously they can afford costly mistakes.....but there are always a handful of top players not already playing at the top clubs that if you move quickly on, you can get.
Agree about Aguero, really wanted us to sign him, City got him and what a bargain he's turned out to be!
Just think top quality players improve those around them and sometimes you need to buy big, it's fairly obvious which players stand out and I think you need them to go to the next level.
If we hadn't wasted time buying Mustafi and Xhaka we could have signed someone top top notch with the 70 odd million we would have had to spend.
We could have got Van Dijk. think he would have improved our team more than those two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Mustafi and Xhaka for 70m is the biggest waste of money I can imagine. Spunking it all on black at Las Vegas would have given a better return
It’s the beauty of hindsight. Everyone was staggered at the price Pool paid for him. Same for Mane at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumble
This is where having the right coach comes into play. Klopp has transformed that Liverpool team and elevated the game of every player in the squad. Van Dijk and Mane have doubled maybe even trebled in value.
Emery needs more of his own signings to work with and less remnants of Wenger’s closing years.
I think there should be a clearout this summer, some going on a free, Ramsey, Lichsteiner, Welbeck, then Cech is retiring, then we probably need to get rid of the likes of Mustafi, Eleneny, we also have some ageing players who probably need replacing now Koscielny is too injury prone and Monreal at 33 is probably at the tail end of his career at the top level, Suarez will head home after being a waste of time loan signing.
I wouldn't be against replacing Xhaka either.
You're probably looking at 7-8 leaving (4 for sure) so we'll have to be creative with replacements.
I don't think he had any interest in going to any other club aside from Liverpool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumble
I forgot about Jenkinson too, he has to go.
They all say that and then a club offers them more money and they miraculously change their mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Emery does needs his own signings.....although Suarez was a weird one.
Guess he was a utility loan for the midfield as he can play left, right, middle. But he ended being pointless.
And yet nobody else did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Which was the more pointless January window loan signing Saurez or Kallstrom?Quote:
Originally Posted by SMatthews
That is true but Van Dijk is an example that you can spend big on one player at a time. However, you need to a solid bedrock of a side to start with.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMatthews
Suarez for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumble
Kallstrom scored a penalty in the semi final shootout against Wigan. :bow:
Suarez. Also, while Van Dijk has made a difference, so has Robertson and Allison. Along with Fabinho and Keita. Not all of that was Coutinho money but along with Suarez they’ve spent their money well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumble
What's your point? This happens all the time, one club bidding for a player.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
My point was that just because a player says he wants to go to one club, doesn't mean he can't be swayed to move to another, money talks as they say.
Van Dijk actually helped raise the level of performances from some of his teammates, sometimes top players have a positive effect like this, they calm the players around them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumble
Liverpool have some talent, but you need top class players around them to get the best out of them, this is what our former manager failed to understand when he dismantled our best team and didn't keep some for the younger players to learn from.
Cech
Lichtsteiner
Jenkinson
Mustafi
Elneny
Chambers
Asano
Ramsey
Mkhitaryan
Ozil
Monreal
Only regret is Ramsey there but couldn't be fucked if the rest left tbh, if we got any money out of it I'd be over the moon.
We need to start again and go back to basics.
Ozil has come out and said he isn’t leaving this summer.
Be lucky to get 50 million for that lot. And yes Ozil, won't be a part of it.