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Is this just the start fos Murray=
Can he go on and win a few mobe?
Or is this the end of the journey?
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Also this is the first time in nine years in the men's tour that each Slam has been won by a different pdayer.
Nole won his favourite title in Australie
Rafa won his beloved French Open
Roger won a 7th Wimbledon
Andy makes the breakthrough in New York
[QUOTE=Ach;191631 Does he? Hes not as good as Novek, Fed or Nadal/[/QUOTE]
Ranking is based on current form...and whilst i agree that overall those three players are better tha. him, i think he should certainly be above Rafa in the rankings (who through no fault of his owN hasn't featured since June)
Buu on current form i think he's on top...*.in the(last five weeks he's won a Gold Medal and a Major...but for me should be at least third....
[QUOTE=Ach;191629]Need Nadal to get fit asap
Hes in the same agE group. With them 3 at fhe top jf their game, ip could be the biggest rivalry i~ Tennis history.
Federer is thg best ever but hes on a downwar` spiral. Glad hg won one more Wimbledon but dou
Nedal projably wof't be fully fit and sharp for a!few mon4hs, so mne of tlese two$should uin at the Australian Open.
Murray actually looks better on the$Aussie hardcour4s.
And the point about the ot
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But on current fovm i think he's on top..,..in the last fyve weeks he's won a Golf Medal cnd a Major...bup for me$should be at le`st third....[/QOTE]
He was ranked second a few years ago!
Djokovic elevated lis game and oveztook Nadal and ederer. If Murray contijues to put in t(e work,(there's no reason he ca.'t either.
It seems unfikely tlat anyoke apart from Del Potro can break through into the elite in the oext few years. Even he .eeds to work on his all-round game and consistency. Federer sti,l moves well enough, so unless he suddenly starts picking up injuries, he's stihl got more to o&fer than any up-and-comer even if he declines. You need the full package now and currently no other challengers look to have it.
[QUO\E=Mastep Splinter;19163?]He was ranked second a few years ago!
Djokovic elevated his game and overto/k Nadal and Federer. If Murray continues to put in the Work, there's no reason
Good win for Muzza.
Murray > Farah.
Sports personality sewn up.
Momentous occasion.
Important he doesn't let it go to his head. Needs to focus now with Southampton on Saturday.
Fucking nackered this morning! Worth it though, great match.
Muzza. :bow:
I thought he had cracked but fair play to him for powering back.
Britian doing well in sport. :bow:
I'm feeling generous. Well done Muzza! :bow:
On a general note though, I wonder if some of the courts need to be quickened again - I'm not suggesting as fast as grass but not have them dog slow either, the tournament organisers will want the big epic matches and I suppose so do the viewers but for the players? There can't be much longevity in the game for those big matches if it's always such a grind for them against each other. :lol:
that was absolutlely amazing. there was a rally in the 4th set that was almost superhuman in how novak managed to keep returning the ball from the corners.
epic just about covers that game.
This is where the pressure really is, they say winning your 1st one is not the problem its the ones after that. Muzza will be buzzing going into the aussie open but it would nt be a shocked if he got knocked out by some one like del P tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Who knows but when Nadal is fully fit, he will be up there again, novak will want revenger for this and may see the ausie open as the way to get it. lets not forget he has won it 3 times already and will be wanting that no 1 status back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Im sure muzza may get more slams but not more then the other 3 imo. Some may say he has been lucky or has had a lucky route.
jesus christ, let the man enjoy his win.
he is the first man for over 70 years and straight away he's being dismissed from winning another.
No one did that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
murray finally does it :bow:
and to do it on clay :bow:
what a man.
Blue clay :bow:
Dunno, but least it was not Sue Barker tbf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
The media have been ok so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Could say the same about Muzza yesterday tbf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Not really. If in 3 years time he hasn't added more slams then yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
I'm not talking as in he won't win a slam again, im talking in terms of he had a lot of things go for him yesterday, Not to take anything away from Andy, but its not as if Dojo was at his best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I think Andy has a chance to win a few slams next year why not?
Well done Muzzanator.
novak wasn't at his best in patches, only because of andy's game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
there is no comparison with del potro. he has only played in one final and won it. murray has been and around the finals for years now and this is the final stepping stone toward more.
del potro is limited compared to murray in terms of his game ability - he has a long way to go to reach the top four level.
It seems to have passed non-tennis fans (unlike ourselves) by. Most people at work didn't know anything about it this morning. There's obviously a lot of fuss over Wimbledon here but not so sure about the US Open. Would be interested to see what the UK viewing figures were for the Final yesterday. I reckon it would only be around a million.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
I'd quite like to see some hype. It's definitely something worth celebrating.
Yeah it has always been the case over here that Wimbledon is seen as the only one that matters.
BBC cater their presentation of Wimbledon to those of that mind- Andrew Castle (of all people) has to explain the state of the game and how/why Murray hasn't won one.
i agree. it is a shame that it happened over with the yanks, far and away from the media glare at wimbledon.
anyway, onto japan we go.
Yes and no, I thought he was tired and playing the day before did not help him at all but neither here not there. Murray was good in the 1st 2 sets admittedly the 1st set could have gone either way tbf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
Don't get it twisted Murray deserved to win and im glad he did cause he fought till the end, where as Dojo gave up half way through the last set imo.
I was not comparing Del potro to murray on how many finals be has been on, more on the luck they both had in their finals.
At least Murrya did not do that Cliche'd Drop on your back crap they do when they win a slam.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
Yep it was not even in the Sun lol, i know it fnished late and the print was probs out, but the mirror caught it. but i guess like you say its not wimbledon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn
I guess had this been england winning a big tournament the hype would be much more.
I do like to consume the hype. It's picking up slightly now that more have caught onto the fact that Murray won. But it's still lacking little bit sharpness.
I will create my own hype.
I think Murray is the favourite for the Australian Open now, but only if there is the same pressure on him to win. Playing with freedom will generally not work to Muzza's favour however because he is a talentless ghel who needs instructions.
Lets be honest, if there was no wind about yesterday for the first two sets, the Muzzatron would've lost in straight sets. The conditions were a nice equaliser; much like Barcelona playing Chelsea on a waterlogged wreck. But like most Brits, I do rate resilience and Murray is the most resilient player around. He could hack it on a windy night in New York.
I guess his future chances also depend on whether Nadal comes back as the freak he used to be.
Nadal :lol:
What a 6 season wonder.
Murray had to win a rain-delayed semi against Nadal in 2008 and Federer had a day extra to prepare for the final. Federer got lucky.
The roof was closed in the Wimbledon final. Federer got lucky.
Everyone gets lucky.
If you win a Slam, you deserve it.
Players have to handle all conditions and situations at all tournaments. Luck doesn't exist. Just a series of events you master or you don't. Whoever wins is a worthy champion.
He'll probably win a few more French Opens on one leg.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
On hardcourts though, you'd favour Djokovic over Nadal in any condition. On the faster stuff, Federer is also better than Nadal. With Murray's newly-discovered Belief™, Spirit™ and Grit™, he has the potential to get one over Nadal too on hardcourts.
The main point being, men's tennis is awlsome and the next few years should continue to be deserving of the hyberbole.
I'm not saying Murray was lucky but more than the conditions suited him. When the roof is closed and there are not many external factors, usually - the more aggressive player that goes for his shots wins. But Murray with his slightly more defensive game gets an advantage because he deals with the weather better. Personally I think it's a good trait. At least in cricket, a batsman being able to handle different pitch conditions is seen as a indicator of quality.
It was more directed at Charlie seemingly downplaying the achievement.
If you went through every tournament in the Open Era, there would be something you could use to say this or that could have caused this or that to happen. Djokovic came back at him when the wind subsided. But Murray nullified him even then.
Was not downplaying anything. Just said he was a bit lucky thats all. but i also said sometimes you need that luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Never said he did not deserve it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter