Fucking agents.
One thing I'll always respect Paul Scholes for is the fact he's never had one. No one to whisper in his ear about ££££ to be made, just entirely focused on his club and club only.
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Fucking agents.
One thing I'll always respect Paul Scholes for is the fact he's never had one. No one to whisper in his ear about ££££ to be made, just entirely focused on his club and club only.
i miss the days of tony adamsQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
"ill sign any contract arsenal put in front of me without reading it"
loyal players :bow:
adams :bow:
He was probably drunk when he said that.
Dont forget Henry in summer 06
"This is the last contract i'll ever sign"
Loyal players :bow:
Henry :bow:
http://news.arseblog.com/2012/07/gri...ep-van-persie/
As suspected, Giroud was a replacement, not an addition to the squad.Quote:
We want him to stay but he is left with one year contract so it’s complicated. Was the recruitment of Olivier Giroud made to compensate for his departure? Yes, we work to avoid being cornered. But we do everything to keep him [Van Persie] and we want him to stay.
If there’s a great offer and if he wants to leave, it will be difficult to keep him.
could also be revisionist to cover their assQuote:
Arsenal scout Gilles Grimandi has admitted striker Olivier Giroud is a direct replacement for want-away captain Robin van Persie.
The 28-year-old van Persie, who scored 30 English Premier League goals last season, last week announced his intention not to extend his deal with the north London club once it expires in mid-2013.
And former Arsenal defender Grimandi has now revealed that the capture of the former Montpellier forward was made with the Dutchman's future in mind.
Speaking to French website le10sport.com, Grimandi said: "Was the recruitment of Giroud made to compensate for his (van Persie's) departure? Yes, we worked to avoid being cornered.
"We want him to stay home but he is left with one year on his contract so it is complicated.
"At Arsenal, there is a healthy atmosphere, he's been here for eight years and he has a real commitment to the club."
Grimandi also said the former Feyenoord striker, who joined the club for 2.75 million pounds in 2004, has his price.
"If there is a great offer and if he wants to leave, it will be difficult to keep him," Grimandi said.
"I would never have thought that players such as Thiago Silva could be transferable and that was the case at a time. There are parameters you cannot handle."
I doubt it because we were linked to Giroud and signed him after RVP told the club he wouldn't sign a new deal with us. There was no need to sign him after we had already signed Polodski who could act as cover for RVP if he got injured.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
i thought there was every need, given the lack of real options beyond rvp and podolski - who knows
When we signed Giroud, quite a few posters were questioning where he'd play because he's a central striker and £10m plus for a guy of his age to sit on the bench is highly unlikely. We've now got our answer.
Exactly, without any doubt he was an addition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
God have we not sold this twat yet
You guys are unbelievable. Our head scout has just confirmed what was suspected to the press and you guys still won't believe it. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
multi million pound company in pr shock - who would've thought
Are you new here?Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
We signed 2 strikers this summer. 2 first team strikers as well. £10m+ for both of them. Thats practically unheard of at our club.
The club knew RVP was going long before he made that statement.
You can talk about PR all you like, but in football terms, he looks like an RVP replacement. His position as a central striker shows that, the timing of the deal shows it our past history with signings and the fact that our head scout has now confirmed what was suspected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
Where did you think he was going to play? Would we really keep a guy worth that much on the bench?
oh i see - only your theories that contradict official arsenal.com statements mean anything? noted for next time...
podolski preferred position is central - he is the main guy now so will take that spot. wenger likes pace out wide, except for games when he wants to pack the midfield so he stuck yossi or ramsey who could pull back into the centre, usually away from home.
giroud would get his chances given the fact that everyone knows rvp would not have played a season like last with so many games.
wenger has changed his approach, as you have noted over the past season, so stronger options from the bench are included in that.
You make note, Terry. Because I remember this time last season where we were talking about the Nasri contract situation, you were carrying on in this same way. Very dismissive. We're in the same situation with RVP's contract talks and you're repeating the same things I said about the Nasri situation. Why didn't we act sooner because we knew this was on the cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
Also, this isn't my theory. Our head scout has come out and said Giroud is part of our back up plan for RVP. You're saying it's a PR exercise. That's a theory. Time will soon tell. If we sell RVP and don't sign a new striker then we'll know for sure.
Yes and no. I mean, they would have known there was a distinct possibility, and in all likelihood, the gag on RVP was until Giroud had signed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Though, I do think they hoped he may change his mind.
As it is, he effectively burnt all his bridges with the statement (which I thought was a pretty low blow for someone of his percieved good character).
And as far as the club go, it also shows that we're not as willing as some might want us to be, to keep him. We keep saying, he's getting on a bit, and if he wants a four year deal for big bucks, it seems ridiculous to pay him over the odds if he is likely to get less and less playing time in two years time.
It's forward planning by the club. Which we should actually be happy about, rather than moaning about it.
Doesn't mean that we don't need further options up top though, so lets just hope that all of it is sorted as quickly as possible.
i was dismissive about what exactly?Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
no this isn't your theory but you have others that contradict the club. the phw one springs to mind first.
i would imagine theo will be called into the centre now as a sweetener to sign on
Can you elaborate on that...soz, being thick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
Do you mean they'll sweeten the deal for the fans? i.e. pay him bigger so he'll stay and we'll be happy??
No he means play him as a centre forwardQuote:
Originally Posted by LDG
he wants to play in the middle, so make it an incentive to sign a new contract so he can finally play where he really wants.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
:good:
and also :ilt:
If I could pull up the Nasri thread, I would. But you know the position you held over the Nasri contract talks was different to how you feel the club has handled the RVP situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
The PHW statement is separate matter. And it's funny how you mention PR talk and then point to the official website as gospel.
I dont think anyone saying they knew Giourd was Robin's replacement can claim to be touched by the hand of God nor those saying he was an addition are blinkered morons!
I for one hoped that RvP stayed as I bet those saying adfition did too but now I just want this gotton over with as I imagine every fan does.
I certainly believe there is some weight behind the argument that Wumger had drawn a line as to how much of an effort we put in to keeping RvP and I believe he may be write. Yes look to keep him but not for silly money, I would not like him to go to Citeh, or Utd but is Dzeko and 15 mil such a bad deal as O read on one of the more gossipy websites yesterday.
Dzeko may be central like Giourd so theres that question mark and I dont think he is as bad as a lot make out, given a regular place tjos guy can score!
If we replace him, I would rather it be with a creative "behind the striker" player, tbh. Arshavin, if you will....but less lazy.
i said a lot about nasri - i can't remember the point you are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
talking with you is confusing at times. grimandi says giroud is a replacement for rvp - based on that you say because it came from someone in the club (ie the official website) then it must be true.
I am saying that just because it comes from the mouth of someone in the club, does not make it gospel truth.
somehow you've managed to turn a simple one liner on its head and reversed our original start points. well played.
http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/sh...ighlight=nasri
Nasri thread
Im bored
There is no way Arsene would have signed Podolski and Giroud if he thought RVP was staying. 15yrs of transfer history proves this.
Around about page 19 we're talking about the wage structure, whose involved with contract talks....etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/sh...ighlight=nasri
the funniest part is some of you thinking wenger is still going to sign another striker on top of what we already have. absolutely no chance.
if rvp goes, giroud is main striker and podolski back up. theo will also get more game time up top.
if rvp stays then we have 2 strikers (him and giroud) battling for 1 position. podolski gets less game time up top. in fact i doubt he'll even feature as a striker. theo also stays on the wing.
Meanwhile, in the Man City boardroom...
http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs2/1444385_o.gif
I didn't know Nasri could sing :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
that link doesn't workQuote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Follow this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
you want to point out to me my previous arguments - you do the leg work matey!
:lol: From page 19 onwards. I haven't got time to repost everything. It goes on for a few pages. It's not as if you can't read.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
This. Pretty much encapsulates how I view the situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
If this was a replacement signing, and everyone was aware he was leaving, then I don't see the point of his released statement, or rather the tone of it. Rocking the boat would have been redundant and counterproductive and I suspect something happened during the 'crunch' talks.
It would be truly bizarre if the only forward we didn't sell this summer was Park.
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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Jeez does it really matter?
Yes :angry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over
Nobdy can win the internet without facts :angry: