If he has designs of joining Barca or Citeh when he willl be an inarguable starter then you could see the appeal.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
I'm fully in Transfer Muppet mode now.
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If he has designs of joining Barca or Citeh when he willl be an inarguable starter then you could see the appeal.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
I'm fully in Transfer Muppet mode now.
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Very true.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Stepping stones :bow:
Im actually quite positive about hazard possibly choosing us tbh.
If he joins citeh, he will have nasri and silva to compete with for a place.
If he joins chelsea, roman is about to rip the team apart and they still have plenty of uncertainty as to who the manager will be.
Utd and us are the only stable 1st team football choices he can make, we have the benefit of having wenger who he probably knows has been after him for years and he's a well respected manager in france.
I can imagine Vermaelen, Kompany and Lukaku are all following him every day in training. Not sure who Man Utd have tbf.
That's all well and good but it would still need us to double our record transfer fee and pay him on a level with what we're hoping to stick RVP on if he stays.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeebus
He's certainly not a signing who fits into how this club is run.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/g...rgets-pictures
Obviously they're just speculating/making shit up.
Skrtel's pic at 11. :lol:
It is scary to think that personal terms have been agreed with all teams interested and that we could be one of them. . .there sre though so many factors in this. . .Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeebus
1) we are never going to pay more in salary than we give RvP
2) this guy wont be here past any contract we give him
3) we could buy MVila and Kagawa with a little tacked on to what we pay for him
4) we dont dont need a massive prima donna at the club as we have Song who can play there
5) he could fucking be immense, thus meaning Im going to have to about face, say I always liked him and Cripps knows his stuff
Gary Neville?Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Worked well with Ramsey tbh
Is that the only photo they could find? :sick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Suarez Is Boss
I suppose he'll be there when England play Belgium. :popcorn:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
£30m for van persie? :lol: We'll be lucky to get £15m. Got around that for Henry didn't we?
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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
I guess that's the most aesthetically pleasing one they could get for him.
They don't link us to Kagawa but they do link us to Sneijder. WTF?
Wtf?Quote:
Originally Posted by Suarez Is Boss
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One can only imagine what he was trying to do to Lucas :sick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
In that link Ngibbles has posted, Arsenal are linked with the following
Goetze
Kaka
Sneijder
M'Vila
Hoilett
Moses
Suarez
Giroud
Belhanda
Vertonghen
Dempsey
Hernanes
Ba
Tiote
Sigurdsson
Out of those 15, which is most likely?
Really bizarre isn't it? A vicious rape scene.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Chamakh's sister.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/900062-arsenal-offer-6-4m-plus-marouane-chamakh-for-olivier-giroud
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I do love the point four. Such an Arsenal offer.
It's almost a shame it's fabricated bullshit like every other newspaper story out there.
I won't believe it until it's on goal.com
This is shit. Come on the Euros.
Belhanda would do, either a straight £15mill offer or £18mill plus Chamakh.
Bullet dodged.
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/footbal...ign-for-rivals
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Cash + Chakma for Giroud is a pretty good move, if true.
Transfer fee sorted, now a straight wages shootout under the pretence of a footballing reason. Man City it is then. Good idea to keep Utd and the chavs in the hunt though, might encourage the gypos to offer £200K, £500K maybe £1billion a week to be sure of collecting another player. Their transfer window must be fun, "got, got, got, need, got, need, got, got, got, got, got, need..."Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
Cash + Chamakh would be just as good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Belhanda would be a wise choice. His style of play is suitable to EPL imo. :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Yeah and next season when he fires a bullet or two into our net we'll have dodged a couple more. Happy days:dance:Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
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Originally Posted by ItsMe
fuck me wenger cant win with you. when this money grabbing **** leaves in two years you would slate wenger for wasting 25 million on another nasri, now we dont sign him wengers a dick for not spending the money.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
serious question here - what has hazard done in his career to warrent him whoring himself out like he is
Sorry but you know what when a club shows no ambition and doesn't try to win sh*t you can't blame players for leaving, top players want to play with top players and want to be successful, 4th f*cking place every season doesn't cut it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
People on here get excited when we sign sh*t like Chamakh and Gervinho who clearly are below par signings, what we need is some star quality our team is distinctly lacking some, when we were successful we had stars all over the pitch, nowadays we've got very little.
So yeah I think Hazard would have been a great signing, he scores goals, creates chances and was player of the year, I don't want to see unknown dross that can't shoot for sh*t and whose sum of skills seem to be made up of 5 yard passes, we've had it for 6 years plus and yes I've had enough.
As for whoring himself out, he's in demand and so he can choose, just like Sol Campbell and Pires did, clearly he was never going to come to us, why would he when we have nothing to offer to the better players...even our better players tend to leave.
gervinho played in the same team as hazard and actually did well so just like gervinho hazard could be utter shit in this league. he is unproven, hell even chamkh scored goals in france.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
sol campbell and pires had actually done something when they were whoring themselves out but i never remember them going everyday to another club when the press suddenly report that x club will up his wage more then y club is offering. (i could be wrong but i cant remember that happening)
lets say hazard goes to city, you say top players getting fourth every year can leave for a club with ambition so using nasri here. hazard is likely to replace him at city so if you were nasri would you be happy with just one season of winning the league to be replaced to nothing but a bench player for the odd game?
Gervinho played in the same team but he was not in the same league as Hazard, the latter was always considered the gem hence the reason Lille wouldn't sell him before..there's no comparison between the two.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
I don't hear money being involved, the clubs he mentions are all successful clubs, why wouldn't he want to go there....is it a crime to win now?
I don't want him to go to City, I don't want to see other teams being strengthened, I want to see us getting stronger not the other way round.
I'm not happy playing fiddle to anyone, does anyone actually remember the 4th placed team/person in any sport?
then i dont know what planet you are on. even city are thinking of pulling out of the deal because of his wage demands. if you were a talented player like he is, and chelsea, city and united were in for you. united surely stand out, there is more pride winning with them then the others and also more likely to give you a chance. a few crap games and dzeko was kicked out and they spunked another 20 odd million on someone elseQuote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
There's other factors, like living in London going to a club most likely to win and liking the manager/style.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Maybe he see's Man City as the future and fancies playing with players like Aguero and Tevez, star players can also help attract other players, we use ot have the same thing when we had Henry, Vieira and co.
Blah blah blah why can't we be more like Man City and show ambition blah blah blah.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Total nonsense.
Not really, other clubs have ambitions, whether is be Spurs, Liverpool or City. They wouldn't just be happy staying in 4th place once they got there, they'd aim to win, we don't those are the hard facts I'm afraid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jam Persie
You've seen 6 years of bottling it and settling for 4th and you think we have ambition, settling for what you've got isn't ambition, it's stagnation.
Honestly, I don't think we're seen as an attractive proposition anymore both home & or abroad, at least not by "elite" semi-proven talent like Hazard. Regardless of whether we'd compete financially with the likes of Citeh, Man United or Chelsea, these clubs IMHO are seen as a much more attractive option than us. Why on earth would a player choose us over them?
We're firmly rooted as a 2nd tier club now. Unless we groom homegrown talent & start to seriously challenge, I really cannot see why any "top" player would want to stay here long term, we're at best seen as a stepping stone type club.
The likes of Hazard, M'Vila (if we do manage to sign him) would only be here for a few years to develop their game before the big guns come calling.
If I'm honest I think our player recruitment policy is pretty useless, has been for a few years now. Don't get me wrong, we make some good signings from time to time, but we make more than our fair share of dud buys and it shows a lot more know that we're not a successful club.
I also think we need to really improve on tieing our players down to lengthy contracts, I accept that our stars want to move on to bigger and better things but I really wish we wouldnt leave ourselves exposed to getting ripped off when we sell our stars.
I accept it's not all doom and gloom but I think this summer is going to be extremely painful, we can't even strengthen our squad because we need to get rid of so much dross, they are on high wages too. It's almost unbelievable that we're paying relatively high wages for players that no one wants to touch, yet we dither in the market when relatively decent players become available for prices well within our budget.
The only way to match the ambition of the mansouri's and abramovich's is to get a usmanov. That or massively improve our income. You characterise our lack of Aguero and Tevez and, very shortly, Hazard as an indictment of a lack of ambition. That's a joke. There are teams without financial constraints of any kind and there are the others who have to live within their means. Because Abramovich has a £500m yacht and I don't does that mean I lack ambition? You may as well demand I go win the lottery, and not the shitty £10m payout kind either.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
By all means criticise the club for making poor decisions on things within their control, there are plenty of grievances. But don't be daft and criticise the club for not being completely free of financial constraint and claim it shows a lack of ambition vis-a-vis Man City, Chelsea or any of the other billionaire toy clubs.
Well I personally think we do the "bare" minimum to strengthen the squad, we're forever going for the "cheaper" option. Gervinho was basically the cheaper option last season when we were courting Mata. The fact that Mata become available for a price within our means for me is indictative of our lousy transfer policy, why on earth did we dither???Quote:
Originally Posted by Jam Persie
Yes, we've not done as much as we could have. Blame the board, blame wenger, blame silent stan. Who knows. Maybe they actually believe we're good enough. Maybe they're struggling under the weight of too many overpaid, under-performing young players and never will be's. I don't know. It's a long way though from 'coulda done more' to 'lookit city, they have tevez and aguero, at least they show ambition'.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
Spurs show more ambition than us, that in itself says it all for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jam Persie