wtf is going to buy Chambers for 20M from us?? or maybe i just don't have any idea on current market values??Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
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wtf is going to buy Chambers for 20M from us?? or maybe i just don't have any idea on current market values??Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
I've seen comments from Foolham fans saying Chambers and Babel were the only two decent players and Chambers showed a lot of spirit, tbh i think i mid or lower table team would pay that kind of money for himQuote:
Originally Posted by Maestro
And that's what should be remembered (but it won't be by many). Every year there's a 'wish list' of players to get rid of and every year it is never completely fulfilled. The changes to this squad are going to take time for a number of reasons, probably two summers at the very least. Fans shouldn't be surprised if some of the names they want gone this summer are still here come September.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
As long as Mustafi goes, I can be plenty patient ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by SMatthews
For the last 2 years there have been 2 bids in that region which the club have rejected......and it was a lot more than just hearsay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maestro
We should keep Chambers IMO. He can be a decent player if well coached and is right now better than El Neny will ever be. He is versatile as CB and DM, plus need him as part of our home grown quota and is on reasonable wages...40k I have heardQuote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
Pepe's release clause is 43 million apparently.
Come on Arsenal.
The squad which finished a point below Spurs - a team who everyone is wanking themselves into a coma about - and got to the Europa League final?Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
I think we can all agree that we need some work but the top 2 aside we're as good as anyone.
CB, CM and winger are the 3 positions we should be prioritising.
We can probably fill some of the other gaps by promoting some of the youth.
For me it's as important to get rid of some players which we really don't want /need as well as signing new ones
i will be very annoyed if Mustafi's still here come August, and personally would like to see the back of Xhaka too, plus Elneny and others who aren't good enough - for as long as those players are on the books there's the possibility of them playing, which i really don't want to see
i do agree with maybe keeping Chambers as a versatile player
Think you're going to go into next season very very disappointed.
According to The Orn, our priorities this summer are a CB and box-to-box midfielder.
Griezmann has finally grown a pair and decided to leave Atletico.
Going to Barcelona it seems. :rose:
Atleti may revive their interest in LacaQuote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
The Orn has spoken.Quote:
“I don’t think it will be the most spectacular summer for Arsenal but I do think they have some very important business to be done.
“It all depends on their budget. If they’re playing Europa League football next season it looks like it will be around £40m. If it’s Champions League it would be significantly higher. They also have revenue streams coming on board with the new Adidas kit deal.
“If it’s Europa League you’ve got to remember it’ll be their third year in that competition. They’ve also heavily invested in the last year or so, especuially in the striking department, and they are adamant they will not break Financial Fair Play.
“Despite still waiting to appoint a Technical Director/Sporting Director/Director of Football, they still have identified targets and conversations are underway. They are looking for experience and youth in their recruitment.
“Their priorities are a central defender, Jeremy Wilson of the Telegraph mentioned the Getafe and Togo centre-half, Djené, he’s under contract until 2023 with a reported value of £13.5m.
“The other priority is a box to box midfielder. Previously, in January, they came close to a deal for Christopher Nkunku from PSG – this is course is to replace Aaron Ramsey. Adrian Rabiot is a player they’ve tried to sign in the past, and they have a long-standing interest in him, however he is a complex individual and has had some issues off the pitch.
“As a sort of secondary brief they’d be looking for a wide forward and in January came close to a deal for Ivan Perisic, and had interest in Yannick Carrasco. Possibly a centre-forward with Danny Welbeck leaving, and Eddie Nketiah would go on loan if they did bring a centre-forward in.
“There is interest in bringing in a left back and possibly a right back, but again those are secondary to the centre-half and box to box midfielder.
“Not to forget they’d be looking to integrate young players too. Reiss Nelson coming back from his loan, Emile Smith Rowe, Joe Willock and Bukayo Saka who is said to be the most highly rated prospect – he’s a wide forward, but extremely young.”
Heavily invested? In what, we spent peanuts last summer.
On top of that a winger should be a priority too, the current lot are hopeless and we need more creativity for the strikers, thats more important than a box to box midfielder IMO.
As usual looks like we're going to go for the very cheap options, that's not going to get us anywhere, Wenger did this for years and look where we are now. This club is going nowhere if this is true, we need big investment and we seem to be looking at peanuts again.
Greaseman to Barca for 108m.
Surely they will be flogging Coutinho?
Coutinho is a sold man walking
Iwobi will be delighted.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMatthews
If we win the WEFA cup we're looking at around 100million. Sell Chambers and Mustafi and whoever else and it's 130 million plus.
Sign a CB...Manolas? Rabiot on a free, Pepe for 43 million.
If we had ideas for AMN to be a midfielder, then go after Wan-Bisaka too who is the real deal.
Rabiot is a bit of a no brainer IMO, an easy replacement for Ramsey. Not too concerned with questions over his personality, it was said that Auba could be difficult to work with but that's hard to believe from what we've seen of him here.
I'm not expecting much this summer anyway. I can't see the club making the type of signings we need and if we do they will probably be from the reduced aisle of the supermarket.
I feel that might be the case with or without CL qualification.
I agree - even if we shift one or both of our biggest earners.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Apparently we’re about to post a £60m loss according to AST and talk of cutbacks within the club have been doing the rounds for a while.
i think it’s becuse of the wage bumps we handed out and the money spent on Auba last January on top of Laca. At the same time our income has dropped quite a bit over the past two years after being in the Europa.
Speaking of which, Auba only has two years left and his agent will no doubt be looking for an improved contract, as will Laca no doubt (3 years left I think).
We won’t be buying any big name players. It will be prospects ready to make the next step or youngsters with potential - especially when Edu arrives.
I'll be feeling a lot better if/when Edu is appointed. Right now it's hard to see what kind of vision is in place with the club a bit rudderless.
It does seem like not being in the CL has hit the club a lot harder than we were led to believe it would.
I think Rabiot probably does have a bit of an ego...... but I don't think he's so out of control that we should be turning our nose up on a player who could save us 40 odd million in transfer fees. Of course we'd pay him more with the signing on fees but we'd still be saving money.
A lot of people think we can't compete for top players....and I get why, but the 3/4 clubs with limitless funds can't buy every decent player in the world every summer. They won't be available indefinitely though so we should be looking to move quickly.
If the January signing of Suarez is anything to go by we should be worried about what this summer will bring!Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Zaha wants to leave Palace.
Cheeky bid?
Meh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Not really at the level that would push us on, is he?
He’s one of the best forward wide players in the league - way ahead of Iwobi.
19 goals and 8 assists over the past two seasons for a bottom half team is pretty damn good.
But either way, he has four years on his contract, is British and would cost upwards of £70m so no chance!
Well he’s better than our current options but probably well out of our price range. Most players who would push us are likely to be too expensive for us anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Yeah not gonna lie, based on what we're hearing it doesn't sound good, cheap bargain basement type signings are unlikely to raise you to a higher level unless you get exceptionally lucy and unearth a gem, which these days is very rare (and are discovered by smaller clubs oddly).Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooner23
We've not had great success with buying cheap, so I don't trust the club to find the right players, fact is we need top quality now if we realistically want to raise our level, but it seems the club isn't interested in that, last summer we spent peanuts relatively speaking and that didn't work out too well, we've ended up 5th and had to watch rubbish players populating the team every game.
We really need to get rid of these guys, but it seems we may be lumbered with them for quite a while, who's dubm idea was it to give Xhaka/Chambers a new contract last summer?
On top of that we still have no replacement for Mislintat, that's a bit of a shambles too, like much of what this club does these days.
Based on what I've heard I'm expecting another average summer followed by another mediocre season, where's the progress?
Exactly, that will be our entire budget (possibly more) on one player and we'll be lumbered with that rubbish the former manager left us with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Basically we need some free transfers to save our summer, Rabiot is one but he'll probably choose some other club that better serves his ambition to be honest.
that's not quite right, do you not think Leno, Guendouzi and Torreira were actually bad signings? as that is what you are implying. they were good signings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
the problem was that mustafi kept playing. he is one of the worst signing ever in the premier league. had holding stayed fit he would have made the difference.
Maybe one day, Zim, the logic will click into place that a lot of the reason our squad needs work is because of the budget our former and current manager are working with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Because of our owner who isn't interested in success.
I know you like to pretend that Wenger is the root of all evil but it's a bit more complicated than that.
That's rubbish sorry, 35 million on Xhaka, 30 odd million on Mustafi, 200k wages on Mhkitaryan because we never tied down Sanchez, Ramsey leaving on a free because again he never got him signed up early, Ozil on 300k because he never signed him up or sold him before he had 8 months left and there's countless other examples of wasting money, Perez, Jenkinsons ridiculous contract, Wishere leaving on a free when we'd been offered 30-40 million for him a season before and the list goes on and on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
He got plenty of money but he utterly wasted it and brought in average players, which is what the current manager has been lumbered with, don't get me wrong he's not covered himself in glory either but this squad he's inherited is awful, he's left the manager with almost no assets of any value to raise money with either, obviusly the owner is at fault as he won't invest but with that in mind Wenger really screwed over the new manager as he had no players of any value he can sell because Wenger wasted what we had.
There's a good reason Wenger is still out of work (despite his claim that he's had plenty of offers).
Leno has been really good, Guendouzi has been decent but he's not a world beater and we need more ready made players than him, Torreira is decent but we knew that from the World Cup, we snapped him up in time I just don't trust the club especially now we've lost Mislintat and have noone to replace him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumble
Trouble with buying cheap is you'r just as likely to end up with a Lichsteiner or Xhaka as you are a Torreira, we've done it and enough over the years to know this.
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
You literally just said "that will be our entire budget" and lamented the lack of funds for our manager.
Are you suggesting that is a new policy and our previous manager had loads of money?
I mean, I agree he wasted a lot of money but our manager doesn't have the budget that the managers of some of our rivals have.
Yes because the current manager is getting very little money considering how much he needs to fix this mess, 70 million in todays money buys you next to nothing as transfer fees are now astronomical.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Wenger didn't get huge amounts, but certainly in more recent times he spent a fair amount and wasted a lot of that (transfers were not as bad as they are now in the whole time), probably a few hundred million that could have been better spent, money we could reall do with considering the owner isn't going to put a penny in. What's worse is that these players either can't be shifted or have no value and are all on huge wages making it a real drain on resources.
I know it's not the same as the money Man City have spent, but certainly it would equate to what Liverpool have had in recent times and look what they've done with it.
So in short yes Wenger really messed it up for the existing manager, he left him with a squad full of duds and spent and wasted large amounts we could use now.
Nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
See video above. :good: