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Originally Posted by LDG
Suppose you can call that a purpose! ?
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Originally Posted by LDG
Suppose you can call that a purpose! ?
You tell me. Same points we discussed a year ago are creeping up again in this thread. For example, we now know that Wenger is involved with the contract talks and it's not just Gazidis calling the shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over
RVP stalled on his previous contract and played the Henry 'sporting ambition' line before. In his recent statement, he did say that he's had past disagreements with the way we're moving forwards as a club.
Reading the statement in full, I see nothing wrong with the tone at all.
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This is an update for the fans about my current situation. I have kept quiet all this time out of respect and loyalty for the club and as agreed with Mr. Gazidis and Mr. Wenger, but since there is so much speculation in the media, I think it is fair for you guys to know what’s really going on at the moment.
As announced earlier this year I had a meeting with the Boss and Mr. Gazidis after the season. This was a meeting about the club’s future strategy and their policy. Financial terms or a contract have not been discussed, since that is not my priority at all.
I personally have had a great season but my goal has been to win trophies with the team and to bring the club back to its glory days. Out of my huge respect for Mr. Wenger, the players and the fans I don’t want to go into any details, but unfortunately in this meeting it has again become clear to me that we in many aspects disagree on the way Arsenal FC should move forward.
I’ve thought long and hard about it, but I have decided not to extend my contract. You guys, the fans, have of course the right to disagree with my view and decision and I will always respect your opinions.
I love the club and the fans, no matter what happens. I have grown up and became a man during my time with Arsenal FC. Everybody at the club and the fans have always supported me over the years and I have always given my all (and more) on and off the pitch. I am very proud of being part of this fantastic club for the last 8 years. As soon as Mr. Gazidis is back from his 2-week holiday in America further meetings will follow and I will update you if and when there are more developments.
Robin van Persie
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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
except this bitim loyal and respect the club but in this statement i shall shaft the club to the maximumQuote:
I have kept quiet all this time out of respect and loyalty for the club
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Originally Posted by Ach
But he also mentions the media speculation and makes it clear that terms for his contract haven't been discussed. When the Cesc saga was happening, everyone was asking why Cesc hasn't made a statement. RVP did the reverse but it's not the news the fans want to hear.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
GP is more than one guy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Terry included.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
I was just being a smartass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Soz.
Ibrahimovic is off to PSG, Tevez could be off to Milan...does that make room for RVP to go to City?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18827137
Well Spurs and Citeh have agreed a fee for Adebayor so probably.
They still need rid of Roque Santa Cruz as well
Adebayor, AdebayorQuote:
Originally Posted by Flavs
We sold him for £25 million
Now he's worth four...
That's the one (and only) good thing about the spuds becoming a credible threat. The top teams will stop giving them freebies on loan.
How can they afford his wages though? Isn't he on 180k?
Unless Shitty gave him a massive signing off fee.
Yeah these days players dont take pay cuts in return for first team football
Chamakh :fury:
cut his basic and gave him a big signing on fee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann
With the fee undiclosed I suspect he and his agent were paid off pretty handsomely.
A man's gotta prepare for his retirement tbh.
He is a good buy at 6m tbf
Shouldve got him. A C*nt (RVP) for a C*nt (Ade) swap + 15 million
Didn't work with Cashley and Capi, tbf.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
How come RVP hasn't had a Twitter update for the fans since his update for the fans?
He was shockingly fairly active on Twitter before that.
Not sure he has any fans left to update.
Tottenham supporters?
He's too busy counting his money.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
i mentioned something on this the other day, but reading this again, i want to know what you think about hte tone being ok etc even though he has lied in his statement. we know for a fact that gazadias wasnt on holiday, he was even at the emirates two days after teh statement was released yet it was rvp who was on holiday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
is the tone still ok even though the club captain lied?
its all been a bit messy, bad advise me finks but this is the week that things should get sorted. SKy say he is back at the arsenal so no excuses not to speak and make a decision, either way!
that is from ian wrights article in the sun today.Quote:
At least Van Persie is not the sort of player who would be unprofessional and cause problems within the group.
now surely he has already been unprofessional by basically saying that his team mates arent good enough to be in the same team as him etc etc in his statement.
yes i accept that on the pitch, he will do his best and not be selfish by not passing because he doesnt like them etc but has he not already been unprofessional and perhaps already casued problems within the group?
Ian Wright talks shit.
This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.
There is nothing wrong with the tone and maybe someone wrongly told RVP that Gazidis was on holiday. It can happen. I'm sure I saw a story on here saying he was on holiday as well and people were slating him. What you're talking about has nothing to do with tone.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
The players can't win in this sort of situation. Theo hasn't made a statement about his future with us but already there is talk about him wanting £100k a week and all sorts of speculation. If he stays silent and speculation continues about wage demands, he'll get labelled a mercenary. Cesc held his tongue throughout the Barca situation, players were speaking for him, he got slated for it and people were saying he should 'man up' and speak for himself. People will pick holes out of whatever scenario.
If the players or manager lie to avoid the media picking on something, I have no problem with that. Lie and lie again, as far as I am concerned.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Giving any excuse for not indicating the state of play to the media is fine. They can fuck off and wait for the issue to be sorted out. Media scumbags/****s. Bollocks to them.
I'll admit, when I first read the statement in full I didn't see anything wrong with it either.
It was only until I examined it bit further, and read between the lines that you get what this is really about.
This is a statement released under the auspices of 'letting the fans know'.
Let's not kid ourselves here, the fans are last on Van Persies list of priorities, if they figure at all.
And there is nothing wrong with that. After all, fan adulation is a nice-to-have but in Van Persie's position, trying to negotiate the last big contract of his career and at the peak of his marketability? He is in a great position to dictate his next, potentially final, 4 years at the top. He'd be a fool not to have his priorities straight.
That is why, while ostensibly a message to the fans, this is in fact a message to the board. And I can only assume this was precipitated by either the club refusing to sell him now, or refusing to sell him to the club of his choice.
Note the phraseology. Two 'Yes, but' sentences in row. A structure commonly associated with giving the appearance of validation, but in fact hiding a veiled criticism. A verbal bait-and-switch.Quote:
I personally have had a great season but my goal has been to win trophies with the team and to bring the club back to its glory days. Out of my huge respect for Mr. Wenger, the players and the fans I don’t want to go into any details, but unfortunately in this meeting it has again become clear to me that we in many aspects disagree on the way Arsenal FC should move forward.
In essense:
Personally I did great, but I can't carry the team.
I respect you guys too much to criticise, but Christ Almighty are you doing it wrong.
That is clearly the allusion here, that the philosphical differences are so great that he can't continue here. Here, at the club he alledgedly supported as a boy in Rotterdam.
Most companies have a policy about public criticism, Arsenal especially like to keep things in-house. Rvp is club captain, someone with a huge media profile. This subtle but pointed statement about his untenable position, was issued for one reason only - to make sure he gets what he wants.
What a great post. Thanks for this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann
We like to keep things in house but we didn't in regards to RVP's case. Look back on the statements from the club and you'll see the same subtle hints from the club and then you should ask the same thing. Whose the message for and what's the intent behind it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann
What subtle hints?
if anything they werent subtle. we want robin to stay, we will do our best to make him stay, we wont pay him silly money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
pretty clear non?
Yeah, yeah....you guys are going to say the club haven't said anything untrue and the same applies to RVP.
I also find it funny that nobody even seems concerned about what was said in the meeting between Gaz, Wenger and RVP. That's probably the most important thing here. It's obvious he cares about the club so what was said in the meeting that made him want to give up?
Excellent question. We'll never know of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
I'm interested to know what you meant above by 'subtle hints'
I've written a post on this before in this thread. PHW Had that article where he talked about players showing loyalty and linked RVP to Man City when he spoke or their wages, Wenger said we've been good to RVP in good and bad times and also mentioned that he's had opportunities to leave Arsenal for more money but has stayed....all true but it's not keeping things in house especially when RVP is unable to speak to the press and hasn't leaked any stories out to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I've posted up one or two interviews on this thread. You may have to go back a few pages.
Fair enough :good:
http://justarsenal.com/van-persie-wa...juventus/14741
This article has RvP at training but wanting his future sorted out before we fly out on Saturday, with Juve as being a likely destination. It also poses the questiom as to whether we should play hard ball a la nasbo and look for max £ most likely Citeh in that case.
It doesn't matter who offended who or who broke unwritten rules, RvP is history and its time to move on with what we have.
I read somewhere that Juve were coming back with an improved offer 15-16 mil and we ight be wise to take that and invest it back in the team
Carrol going to Barcodes will make Ba available and it may be wise going for him, get MVila and a AM, Dempsey cheap experienced - I would say that be a good summer and I do think we need back up GK and FB but may not have enough wonga
I really don't care how much we get for him because it isn't as if it will be reinvested in obtaining top quality for the team. The best result for us as fans is for Van Persie to piss off to Juve. Screw playing hardball with City, I'm sick and embarrassed as a fan that we have turned into their feeder club while yapping about how obscene they are with their oil money.
Something along the lines of 'No, we won't pay you £250k a week' I'd imagine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters