Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit

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Originally Posted by Grebbo

When have we created a fuss about bidding for a player? Wenger says no comment about every player. Moyes has been wittering on about Fabregas for a month now but Wenger has hardly mentioned Suarez.

Arsenal bidding £40m for Suarez is quite rightly causing media focus - it's the story of the summer because it's so unusual.

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Sorry, I meant the causes of our actions. No, we don't "talk" about it. But what we do creates more fuss than anybody else.

Firstly in the media, liek you say above.

But also, it seems that everyone we deal with (See Barca, Fergies comments, Perez (cunnt) comments, Liverpool just recently), says we're a nightmare.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

As a replacement for Gervinho, sign him up.

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Another one of their cast-offs? No thanks. That's not a great Utd team and he can't get in it.

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Originally Posted by Grebbo

Because they're on about £300k pw (in Falcao's case tax free) and both Monaco and PSG would outbid us in transfer fee and wages.

The only reason we're in with a sniff of signing Suarez is because the richest and top clubs don't want him, although that will probably change if RM don't get Bale.

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these players werent on these big salaries before they signed. So if start of summer we said we will splash 50m on a striker, we could have gone out and tried for falcao, put him on wages that were high to us and that he would be happy on. we could have gotten things wrapped up before others had a chance to blow us out of the water is more the point i think they were making

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Originally Posted by LDG

Yeah, I listened to it last night.

There is definitely something funny going on behind the scenes. There always is at Arsenal.

The one thing which makes you wonder, if the fact that most other teams are so decisive when it comes to going about their business. We're always told that Arsenal are very private when it comes to dealings, yet we actually seem to create more of a fuss than anybody else.

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its always a merry go round with us. someone also said he wouldnt be surprised if we failed with suarez we would bid for rooney, going from 1 rejection to the next. there seems to be no structure. maybe we should have put bids in for hig, rooney and suarez and then seen which is most likely before upping them if needed. going from one to the other allows us to miss out on players as we have dilly dallied too long on 1 particular player.

huge frustration here as its not pre-planned it seems. got loadsamoney just dont know how to behave with it!

You hear these stories of our scouts watching players all year long, 50 games. So far the result has been Sanogo who (coincidentally I'm sure) was free. It's not like we hit August and then start hunting around, we should know who we want and have the bids ready to go the minute the window opens. You don't use the window to find players, you use it to negotiate and get the deal done. This business about it being hard to find top players is utter bullshit, we've had a whole year to do that.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

You hear these stories of our scouts watching players all year long, 50 games. So far the result has been Sanogo who (coincidentally I'm sure) was free. It's not like we hit August and then start hunting around, we should know who we want and have the bids ready to go the minute the window opens. You don't use the window to find players, you use it to negotiate and get the deal done. This business about it being hard to find top players is utter bullshit, we've had a whole year to do that.

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after last year you would have thought they learnt they did well and to carry that on. as in getting poldi sorted before the window even opened. getting giroud in early ish. it can be done. other teams lined up deals before the season ended (like we did with poldi) and then sorting things once it opened (schurlle). we did it last year so WTF happened this year!!!!

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Originally Posted by I_Killed_Kenny

after last year you would have thought they learnt they did well and to carry that on. as in getting poldi sorted before the window even opened. getting giroud in early ish. it can be done. other teams lined up deals before the season ended (like we did with poldi) and then sorting things once it opened (schurlle). we did it last year so WTF happened this year!!!!

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We knew we were selling RVP then, that's the difference.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

She is a good journalist amd am arsenal fan however she said the exact same thing at an ast meeting either just before the end of season or just after. While I'm not saying she knows nothing, I just wonder if this is new news or is jut old stuff being recycled.

It then brings to another point, it's all very well gazidas wanting to spend, but he's more then happy not too and hide behind wenger letting him take the blame. Gazidas needs to man up

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Seems believable to me, he's always come across as quite frugal when it comes to spending, in everything he says and does.

Gazidis came out and said we had money to spend, he's doing a rubbish job yes but he didn't hide in this case, it's Wenger hiding behind his comfort blanket knowing that if he spends expectations from the board will naturally be higher. He's been deluded about the ability of his squad for far too long now, 8 years without a tin pot trophy and he still says the same about the quality, if they're are so good why have they not managed to deliver anything, that's the question?

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Originally Posted by I_Killed_Kenny

these players werent on these big salaries before they signed. So if start of summer we said we will splash 50m on a striker, we could have gone out and tried for falcao, put him on wages that were high to us and that he would be happy on. we could have gotten things wrapped up before others had a chance to blow us out of the water is more the point i think they were making

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The whole lot of them are short sighted. How long have we known we’d have money to spend? It must have been known ages ago. I’m not even worried about the Cavani’s of this world. I doubt we’d have been able to compete with PSG and Monaco anyway. Those strikers have known months in advance that they were due a massive pay increase. Club prestige doesn’t mean a thing to them if they’re going to France. Forgot those guys. I’m still baffled as to why we’re now looking to spend silly money on a world class striker when we already had one a year ago. We should have just kept RVP and upped his wages but I suspect the being told to sign better players dented Wenger’s pride and that’s why he shifted him off to Man Utd. That’s what I gathered from the interview in Japan anyway. He doesn’t like to be challenged and shifts players out when they do. We shouldn’t be in this position. It seems like there is no forward thinking.

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Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga

Seems believable to me, he's always come across as quite frugal when it comes to spending, in everything he says and does.

Gazidis came out and said we had money to spend, he's doing a rubbish job yes but he didn't hide in this case, it's Wenger hiding behind his comfort blanket knowing that if he spends expectations from the board will naturally be higher. He's been deluded about the ability of his squad for far too long now, 8 years without a tin pot trophy and he still says the same about the quality, if they're are so good why have they not managed to deliver anything, that's the question?

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Gazidis isn't doing a rubbish job, he's doing a fantastic job. Just not a job that coincides with the interests of the fans. He's building the finances and therefore Kroenke's investment year on year. He now says we have £70mill a year excess, doesn't mean anyone at the club wants to spend it but supposedly we have it. You can't fault Arsenal as an investment vehicle, nobody else is even close to us.