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30-07-2013, 09:34 PM
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Yes, I agree with you. This is definitely short termism, absolutely no doubt about that. The possibility of short term takings is a huge bonus for investors. I mean Kroenke has gone way beyond having to plan for his retirement, right? It was the fucked up state of the commercials that had been put in place by people absolutely desperate to drive the share price and then cash out that likely attracted the Kroenke shark in the first place. Somewhere along the line our previous shareholders had a dramatic change in philosophy, I'm betting after DHW died and that utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, **** PHW took over. I think that's when they realised they could cash in on the new money laden, mega TV deal version of football (the version we don't really recognise) and turn their £7.52 investment into a £500mill cash out. And I think everything that has been done at this club since then was in line with that agenda and I also think a repeat performance is playing out as we speak.

To see it I think you have to set aside being a fan for a moment and look at it from a business point of view. The fucked up commercials were gold dust in reality. What;s the whole point of corporate investment? Buy low sell high. That's Arsenal in a nutshell. And you've spotted the short term nature of the deal. Yes, of course, the club has to die once all the profit taking has concluded.

Peter Hill-Wood became chairman in 1982, if he was asset stripping the club (which really wouldn't do him much good as his stake-holding in the club is pretty small...less than 1% i think) he's taking an awful long time about doing it. Hill-Wood is no different to his father they are all from a long line of semi-aristocratic Tories from the city....that's why we were known for years as the Bank of England Club. Stuff shirted immovable old buffers who don't like change remember the "we don't need his sort here" quote from everyone's favourite octagenerian in 2007 regarding Stan Kroenke. Kroenke was welcomed to the club as the lesser of two evils to Alisher Usmanov who really is a vile human being with links to human trafficking amongst other things.
Kroenke is hardly a philanthropist by any stretch of the imagination, but his history in sports investment hardly indicates a cut and run approach....his Colorado based franchises he has owned for 10-15 years now with no indication that he is looking to sell at all.
He likes our self-sustaining model because it means he can be as hands off as he likes, i think if he had his way he'd never come over to England.....and he is tolerated because he doesn't interfere in the day to day running of the club.
30-07-2013, 09:42 PM
selassie

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

Surprised Chelsea haven't gone in for him to be honest, he could room with John Terry and they could have fun on evenings in watching old episodes of the black and white minstrel show.

brilliant. :lol:
30-07-2013, 10:08 PM
Xhaka Can’t

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

Peter Hill-Wood became chairman in 1982, if he was asset stripping the club (which really wouldn't do him much good as his stake-holding in the club is pretty small...less than 1% i think) he's taking an awful long time about doing it. Hill-Wood is no different to his father they are all from a long line of semi-aristocratic Tories from the city....that's why we were known for years as the Bank of England Club. Stuff shirted immovable old buffers who don't like change remember the "we don't need his sort here" quote from everyone's favourite octagenerian in 2007 regarding Stan Kroenke. Kroenke was welcomed to the club as the lesser of two evils to Alisher Usmanov who really is a vile human being with links to human trafficking amongst other things.
Kroenke is hardly a philanthropist by any stretch of the imagination, but his history in sports investment hardly indicates a cut and run approach....his Colorado based franchises he has owned for 10-15 years now with no indication that he is looking to sell at all.
He likes our self-sustaining model because it means he can be as hands off as he likes, i think if he had his way he'd never come over to England.....and he is tolerated because he doesn't interfere in the day to day running of the club.

One of the Colorado based franchises he owns is the Colorado Avalanche. They were a premier club in the NHL. When Kroenke bought them they were top class and laden with stars. Shortly after his purchase they won their 2nd President's Trophy and went on to win the Stanley Cup. The team also held the league record for consecutive games sold out. Since then, they have regularly traded away their top players and at points have just about paid above the salary cap payroll floor (the minimum spend on wages an NHL team can make) http://www.capgeek.com/payrolls/

The team as a result, suck - big time. Have a look at the league table for last year http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm...nav-stn-league

But its OK because the Avs are a profitable team.
30-07-2013, 10:08 PM
Ollie the Optimist

suarez clause is nothing but an inform him of the bid. they want 50, we wont pay it.

we're signing gareth barry and thats it.

fuck this
30-07-2013, 10:10 PM
Özil's Panoramic View

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

suarez clause is nothing but an inform him of the bid. they want 50, we wont pay it.

we're signing gareth barry and thats it.

fuck this

please, god, no. :ilt:
30-07-2013, 10:11 PM
AKBapologist

LOL, even ollie's cracked.

Worst summer ever.
30-07-2013, 10:14 PM
Xhaka Can’t

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Originally Posted by AKBapologist

LOL, even ollie's cracked.

Worst summer ever.

I wouldn't worry about it too much, surely there;ll be worse to come.
30-07-2013, 10:14 PM
AKBapologist

Spurs buying Suarez?
30-07-2013, 10:22 PM
Ollie the Optimist

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Suárez has made no representation to the Premier League to seek adjudication on whether Arsenal’s provocative bid of one pound over £40 million obliged Liverpool to sell.
Arsenal believed their offer, submitted last week, would trigger an exit clause in the Uruguayan’s contract, a suggestion the Anfield board rejected instantly.
Liverpool are unmoved by any suggestion there is any ambiguity and are adamant if the Premier League was to adjudicate on any dispute the club’s position would be validated further.
The lack of any approach does not suggest confidence on the part of the striker’s advisers. Club lawyers and those of Fenway Sports Group are definite about the details of Suárez’s contract and believe the 26-year-old’s agent, Pere Guardiola, is well aware Arsenal’s £40 million bid was far too low.
“We’ve all examined the clause in detail,” a senior Liverpool figure said. “All it obliges is for us to enter good faith negotiations about Luis’s future. There is absolutely no obligation to sell and that is very clear.”
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Liverpool themselves could request the Premier League to ask Arsenal on what basis they bid £40,000,001. It is contrary to League regulations for a rival club to be given access to confidential contract details of an opposing player. There are no Liverpool plans at this stage to pursue a complaint against the Londoners, although at the highest level of the Merseyside club there is a feeling bidding an additional pound was "rubbing Liverpool’s noses in it".
It has ensured no further approaches by Arsenal are welcome at Anfield.
Liverpool, meanwhile, have agreed a loan deal for Benfica left back Lorenzo Melgarejo but will require a work permit if they are to proceed with signing of the Paraguay international.

thats done it for me. i was completely wrong, and we got fucked over by an agent too. pissed liverpool off, after believing an agent when its now clear there is nothing there. ive got this wrong and ill hold my hands up to it. the lot of them can fuck off. bidding that extra quid has now cost us any chance of getting him at all. no excuses.
30-07-2013, 10:25 PM
AKBapologist

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Originally Posted by AKBapologist

Spurs buying Suarez?

http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/30/gareth...uarez-3905440/
:lol:

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