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15-09-2017, 12:43 PM
dostoy

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Originally Posted by Bumble

They scored a quality goal which I think was a bit of a fluke after watching the striker attempt other things like crossing etc later in the game.

We scored 2 good goals. Walcott enjoyed being offside and fumbling around but least he seemed to make effort. Anyway its our first win on the way to Europa league glory. This is our best chance of the Champions League return we all crave.

There is one thing a lot of people crave a lot more than being back in the CL.
15-09-2017, 12:48 PM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by dostoy

There is one thing a lot of people crave a lot more than being back in the CL.

I want us to win the Europa Cup and gain access to the CL. I want us to do well in the league as well but won't celebrate a Top 4 finish.
15-09-2017, 12:50 PM
Letters

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Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur

From January 2015 to May 2015 Ospina had a run in the team.

He played 18 league games.
Lost 2 games (Spurs 2-1) and (Swansea 0-1),
Drew 3 games (Utd 1-1, Chelsea 0-0, Sunderland 0-0)

Won the rest and picked up 8 clean sheets in the process. Clean sheets against difficult teams like Stoke, City, Everton, West Ham and Chelsea.

Says the man who always downplays statistics :whistle:

:run:
15-09-2017, 12:54 PM
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

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Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur

Just challenging you to do some research and think about it.

From January 2015 to May 2015 Ospina had a run in the team.

He played 18 league games.
Lost 2 games (Spurs 2-1) and (Swansea 0-1),
Drew 3 games (Utd 1-1, Chelsea 0-0, Sunderland 0-0)

Won the rest and picked up 8 clean sheets in the process. Clean sheets against difficult teams like Stoke, City, Everton, West Ham and Chelsea.

With our record and the sort of horror shows we've seen, that's not bad for a 2nd string keeper. It's not as if Cech hasn't conceded a shit load of goals and been caught out on many occasions.

As said, when he was given a long run of games, he was ok for a 2nd stringer. It's rare to see a 2nd string keeper play a blinder after long periods on the bench. Unless he's playing us of course. ;)

And during that period at least two games where we dropped points can pretty much be attributed to him

Frankly we were in good form in that time, and managed to get results inspite of him

No I don't expect a second choice goalkeeper to be world class but I do expect them to be competent and not a liability

He could have cost us the FA cup if not for us going up the other end and scoring in the final.

I simply cannot think of any keeper back up or otherwise that consummately makes the kind of fuck ups he does. Not even Almunia at his worse.

I'm not exaggerating when I say I cannot think of a worse keeper that has played as many games in goal for us as Ospina.
15-09-2017, 01:01 PM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

And during that period at least two games where we dropped points can pretty much be attributed to him

Frankly we were in good form in that time, and managed to get results inspite of him

No I don't expect a second choice goalkeeper to be world class but I do expect them to be competent and not a liability

He could have cost us the FA cup if not for us going up the other end and scoring in the final.

I simply cannot think of any keeper back up or otherwise that consummately makes the kind of fuck ups he does. Not even Almunia at his worse.

I'm not exaggerating when I say I cannot think of a worse keeper that has played as many games in goal for us as Ospina.

You can't be serious. But if that's your opinion, it is what it is.
15-09-2017, 01:10 PM
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

Almunia was at best an average keeper but he made far fewer overall mistakes.
15-09-2017, 01:13 PM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by Letters

Says the man who always downplays statistics :whistle:

:run:

I downplay it when people throw around statistics without context. The Ozil one with chances created is a perfect example.

Ozil has created 15 chances but can anyone say he's having a good season or playing anywhere near to his potential?

Also, if Lacazette is the ideal man that should help Ozil shine and bag more assists, how many of the chances has he created for Lacazette?
15-09-2017, 01:14 PM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

Almunia was at best an average keeper but he made far fewer overall mistakes.

Is that a fact? Prove it.
15-09-2017, 01:17 PM
Marc Overmars

I think Ospina shares all the strengths and weaknesses Almunia had. They're very similar keepers.

Not a fan of either though, but in Ospina's case I'm not really bothered given he won't play in the league.
15-09-2017, 01:22 PM
Letters

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Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur

I downplay it when people throw around statistics without context. The Ozil one with chances created is a perfect example.

Ozil has created 15 chances but can anyone say he's having a good season or playing anywhere near to his potential?

Also, if Lacazette is the ideal man that should help Ozil shine and bag more assists, how many of the chances has he created for Lacazette?

Your stat has little context too. A 'keeper can keep a clean sheet simply because we dominated the game and they came under little pressure or because the opposition's strikers were wasteful.
Or they can have a great game but be beaten by a shot that no 'keeper could be expected to save.
Like assist stats, clean sheets stats tell you something but they don't paint the whole picture.

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