All or Nothing

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Because I miss the game I used to live for.

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My suggestion, start watching grass roots football. I go see the mighty Enfield Town here and there. Yes of course it's a bit crap but at least it's real - and they're a fan owned club, the original Enfield "did an MK Dons" and Enfield Town are the AFC Wimbledon of the area. I find it quite good fun, it's more like going to football was when I was young. The only thing missing - and this is quite an important thing - is I don't care about them like I used to care about Arsenal. That's the thing you can't force. And, with Arsenal, it's the thing I can't completely detach myself from although I certainly am nowhere near as bothered as I used to be.

Another thing about All Or Nothing is it's already showed my biggest annoyance with the team maybe isn't coming from Arteta. This utterly fuckin pointless sideway and backwards passing that sees the defenders with far more touches than anyone else in the team. It's infuriatingly boring and pathetic. But Arteta is quite clearly telling them to be more progressive with the ball. In one of the earlier episodes Saka came in furious about the lack of forwarding passing too, which was great to see.

It does pose the question though, if Arteta is telling them to be more progressive and they're clearly fuckin not then that's a different problem.

Every time Ben White gets the ball and puts his foot on top of it to look around, bringing the game to complete halt, I want to put my hand in the tele and rip his poofy fuckin earing oot his fuckin ear.

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Originally Posted by Letters

Where's your bar though? I mean, I was privileged to have a season ticket during the Wenger glory years. It was mostly amazing.
At the time I always knew in the back of my mind "It won't always be like this". There's no way any team can sustain that level forever, and of course the money men muscling in have completely changed the landscape.
A lot of the last 15 years have been pretty mediocre, and football in general has gone to shit. But right now I see us moving in the right direction. The only sensible thing to measure us against is last season.
If you compare every season to that Wenger side 2002-4 then prepare for a lifetime of disappointment, it will rarely if ever get that good again.

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Doubt anyone believes we can ever emulate the Wenger years at their peak (although there were plenty of recurring flaws even back then, especially in terms of European performances). But no, Bergkamp, Vieira, Henry and Freddie is not the minimum requirement. We can set our sights more realistically than that. My problem is the fans' buy in to the bullshit that Wenger pushed as cover for his failing ability to compete as the game changed around him. Winners have a winning attitude, they don't settle for second best let alone fourth best even when the odds are against them. Losers make excuses. Maybe the odds of us toppling City and Liverpool are as low as when Leicester actually did it. But that's the aim. If 3rd or 4th comes as a consequence then so be it, a failure for sure but with the consolation of cash from the CL. Make it any more than that and you can kiss goodbye to the levels of commitment needed to drive that one final inch when it really matters. But we know this, even as recently as last season. When the chips are down you can be sure we'll fuck it up - just as I said in the thread last year when most were saving up for the CL special edition kit. It's not "I told you so", it's I told you so the last time, and the time before that, and again the time before that. Because it's not difficult to spot the pattern.

I bet if you asked any top sportsman what the most important element to their success is they'd answer "attitude". I don't even see gratitude with the bunch we have on the pitch right now, let alone the mentality that's going to stop them collapsing again this season.

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Originally Posted by mandela8

Another thing about All Or Nothing is it's already showed my biggest annoyance with the team maybe isn't coming from Arteta. This utterly fuckin pointless sideway and backwards passing that sees the defenders with far more touches than anyone else in the team. It's infuriatingly boring and pathetic. But Arteta is quite clearly telling them to be more progressive with the ball. In one of the earlier episodes Saka came in furious about the lack of forwarding passing too, which was great to see.

It does pose the question though, if Arteta is telling them to be more progressive and they're clearly fuckin not then that's a different problem.

Every time Ben White gets the ball and puts his foot on top of it to look around, bringing the game to complete halt, I want to put my hand in the tele and rip his poofy fuckin earing oot his fuckin ear.

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Arteta quite clearly is the problem both his quixotic transfers and his quixotic team talks

Comparing a game against Liverpool to finger banging some bronzed Argentine whore in a night club

What the fuck are you meant to make of that.

In regards to forward passing, players pass sideways or backwards out of a sense of safety and because they don’t trust their team mates.

Having Xhaka in central midfield is a complete negation of the intent of controlling the game

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Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn

Comparing a game against Liverpool to finger banging some bronzed Argentine whore in a night club

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Originally Posted by Mac76

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Sigh….are you offended?

This place really isn’t the same anymore

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Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn

Arteta quite clearly is the problem both his quixotic transfers and his quixotic team talks

Comparing a game against Liverpool to finger banging some bronzed Argentine whore in a night club

What the fuck are you meant to make of that.

In regards to forward passing, players pass sideways or backwards out of a sense of safety and because they don’t trust their team mates.

Having Xhaka in central midfield is a complete negation of the intent of controlling the game

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You kick a football like a toddler, don't you?

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Originally Posted by mandela8

You kick a football like a toddler, don't you?

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Don’t be stupid

A toddler couldn’t kick a ball over as many fences as I have

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Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn

Don’t be stupid

A toddler couldn’t kick a ball over as many fences as I have

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Always painfully obvious when someone who has never/can't play football posts about it.

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Originally Posted by mandela8

Always painfully obvious when someone who has never/can't play football posts about it.

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Explains your invectives about Saka tbh

Well that and you’re a cunt