Where Arsenal is going wrong

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Originally Posted by Ernesto

Darth, Ronaldo gave ManUre 3 good seasons after the World Cup debacle with Rooney. He, himself and the media created a huge story about him leaving and it looked for all the world like he was going to. However, he turned the corner, gave Ferguson and the Scum three great years and only THEN did he f*ck off to Real.

Compare that with us trying to appease our better players by giving them the captaincy. The same armband that Adams used to wear.

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It seems to me that Cesc got the 'one more year' speech last summer and he's not the only one that was persuaded to stay longer than he wanted, ofc there's plenty who haven't but that's the same for any club. I'm not completely sure Madrid wanted him after the World Cup as wasn't the following year the one where Ronaldo got ridiculously good? Either way, we have persuaded players to stay before, it's a shame we don't quite have the staying power we used to have but we've tried as much as we can imo, we're not a laughing stock yet, just a less attractive proposition than we were.

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Originally Posted by Ernesto

You know what really pisses me off- why is it that no f*ckin Manchester United player ever wants out of the club? Why is it that, even if they do, within a couple of weeks they change their minds? Take Ronaldo after the World Cup in 06, for example, or Rooney during the last season. Even in the rare event that a player totally and wholeheartedly wanted to leave the club, Ferguson wouldn't give in to their demands. In fact, he'd perhaps make a mockery of that player (e.g Heinze wanting to go to Liverpool only to be sold to Real Madrid)

Our club's a bloody laughing stock.

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Because they are one of the biggest and most successful clubs in the world.

We are not.

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Originally Posted by AKBapologist

This blog nails it:
http://wp.me/p19hmt-6B

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Outstanding read.

Thank-you for that.

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Originally Posted by selassie

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Yeh that's a good read.

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It is a good read. I don't know what avaricious, egregious or pecuniary mean but I'll be using them from now on.

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Originally Posted by Gubby Allen

It is a good read. I don't know what avaricious, egregious or pecuniary mean but I'll be using them from now on.

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Avaricious is Nasri's nickname in the dressing room, egregious is the code word used for our defensive game plan and pecuniary is the trophy we are going for this year.

Where Arsenal is going wrong? well for a start we're not winning a fucking thing!!!

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Originally Posted by dazthegooner

Where Arsenal is going wrong? well for a start we're not winning a fucking thing!!!

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We were unlucky in the Emirates Cup, we had our two best players missing (because they want to leave the club). We should have had a penalty in the first game, disgraceful referring robbed us of a trophy and you can't do much about that. By rights we should have won it and I hope the lads show togetherness and a little bit amazing spirit to come back next year and triumph (although I'm not sure there's going to be an Emirates Cup next year in which case robbed again!)

People seem to forget we remained undefeated in the Emirates Cup.

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Originally Posted by Gubby Allen

It is a good read. I don't know what avaricious, egregious or pecuniary mean but I'll be using them from now on.

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"I use simple words. Some people like to use words like this," he gestures a long-word with his hands, "to try and confuse and stop you from understanding. I want everyone to understand what I say. Instead of saying 'he's avaricious', I'll say he's bloody greedy."
(Words of the great Bill Shankly, talking about smartarse commentators and reporters.)

The other thing about that article is a lot of things have pissed me off this year, but the most recent one, I heard during the Emirates Cup was Wenger saying something to the effect of: "There is only one deadline - the 31st August one"

No there isn't (I find it increasinly difficult to refrain from adding an insulting name for him at points like this).

What about the deadline of 13th August when the season starts, or the one a few days later when the champions league starts? Or the deadline around today where the last available pre-season game we will have departed for and any new signing has **** all by way of game time to integrate with his team mates.

Our season starts with exactly those type of 2nd tier of difficult matches which you need to win to achieve anything: Newcastle away, Livepool home probably around the 8th-12th hardest games we'll have.

Throw in a couple of crucial C.L ties (which could so easily have been avoided) and there's every chance we're going into those with the same croc that are in a horrendous run of form.

His comments to put pay to any belief that he is up at all hours desperately negotiating any deals in time for the season start, when for him the season starts half a dozen matches into it.