Oxlade Chamberlain Thread

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Originally Posted by Ach

Adam and Parker have proved their worth elsewhere to get the wages they got at Liverpool and Spuds.

Ox and previous "wonderkids" have done nothing of the sort for us or previous clubs.

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They haven't proved they can cope at the highest level at all. The only difference is age.

As far as wonderkids go, Ox is a safe bet.

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If what you say is true and he will get paid for the role he will play, surely its a good idea to let him play that role first before giving him a wage increase.

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Maybe we will. This is just paper rubbish. Until we see it on Arsenal.com, I don't see the point of throwing a hissy fit really. Or maybe constantly winning means we need to create some sort of drama out of nothing.

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Originally Posted by Ach

Exactly.

But lets ignore that and defend Wenger instead by saying how would Goal know?

:charlie:

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No no no. Don't misrepresent. Goal are a bunch of clueless clowns. It's just a fairly safe educated guess.

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Originally Posted by Ach

Exactly.

But lets ignore that and defend Wenger instead by saying how would Goal know?

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Where did i defend him you prick show me.

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Originally Posted by Syn

They haven't proved they can cope at the highest level at all. The only difference is age.

As far as wonderkids go, Ox is a safe bet.

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Parker has tbh. Brilliant for clubs and country this past 2 years

As for safe bets, no such thing. Our injury record which ive always said is our number one problem makes sure of that

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Maybe we will. This is just paper rubbish. Until we see it on Arsenal.com, I don't see the point of throwing a hissy fit really. Or maybe constantly winning means we need to create some sort of drama out of nothing.

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We've done it before. Hardly surprising if its true

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

Where did i defend him you prick show me.

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You have been missed.

Never leave again

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Originally Posted by LDG

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Angry Charlie doesn't scare me.

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Originally Posted by Ach

Parker has tbh. Brilliant for clubs and country this past 2 years

As for safe bets, no such thing. Our injury record which ive always said is our number one problem makes sure of that

We've done it before. Hardly surprising if its true

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We don't know whether a new contract is being offered and, particularly, even if it is being offered - how much the contract is worth. If the touted figure of doubling his £25k salary is quoted, £50k a week is the going rate for Oxlade at any club. If he was a Man Utd player, that's how much he'd be on. If he was a Tottenham player, that's how much he'd be on. If he was a Chelsea player, he'd probably be on more.

I've already argued for performance-related pay and in an ideal world everyone would get paid based on how well they perform. But in absence of that, new contracts are offered on the basis of what they're likely to do rather than what they have done. That's the case everywhere. What makes people think we're pissing away a lot on youngsters is the age.

People think an 18 year old shouldn't be earning as much as a 30 year old - and that's the bottom line. But it just so happens that for our club, 18-21 year olds are important members of the squad whereas for most other clubs, this is not the case. Then your argument is that maybe this 18 year old won't turn out to be an important member of the squad...he is going to be a regular next season. There's no maybe about it..it's happening. If you want to account for risk of injuries, we shouldn't renew Van Persie's contract. What we pay them has nothing to do with age but more their role in the side.

I do think there is a mismanagement of wage handouts but not for these youngsters - more on the end of the squaddies that hardly ever play/4th choice; Djourou, Squillaci, Park, Diaby, Chamakh etc. If you think Oxlade is not going to play at least as big a role as Lennon or Downing or Valencia - in terms of how important they are for a top 4 side - then I'm sure you're in the minority.

It's worth remembering that if he is in line for a pay increase that this is probably a step-up clause in his original contract and not a new contract in and of itself.

One of the main reasons we are able to attract these sought after youngsters is the contracts we offer. The step-up clause may be triggered automatically by number of games played or even just after a certain time has elapsed.

So, before you starting jumping up and down, bear in mind that his signing in the first place was in some way smoothed by this auto-triggered pay rise.

Your face.

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Originally Posted by Ach

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You have been missed.

Never leave again

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Never left just took a short break.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

Angry Charlie doesn't scare me.

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Thats not me being Angry though.