in our case, we can turn shit very quickly :pray:Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
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in our case, we can turn shit very quickly :pray:Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
any particular reason you are praying we turn to shit? wumming twatQuote:
Originally Posted by gooners
wanker -- perhaps i was praying we don't? crossed your mind, ****?Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
This, We have not been too bad this season, just failed to take our chances. Getting 2 draws in our 1st to games was poor 2. But if today's game and the city game tells us anything, we need quality in the big games aginst the big teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
It's true that our performance have been quite good, we have however been "in form" and yet only picked up the equivalent of 3 wins in 6 games which on reflection isn't great.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Things can change, but I think the weakest part of our season is the tail end and thus a good start was essential IMO.
Nah we tend to finish strong, its the middle part we seem to flop, around feb-march.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
End of the day, most have been brought back down to see where we are. we have 3 easy games and we should be winning them all.
Not really bothered about the table now, if its 20 games gone and we still have 9 points then its time to worry about form etc.
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Originally Posted by hobson's choice
No idea why Wenger decided to drop Merts. He's been consistent and our best CB so far. He was excellent against City and based on that performance alone, he should have been one of the first players on the team sheet. If Ramsey keeps his spot after his last performance against City over Ox and Walcott, then surely Merts warrants a start for this game? This is the sort of thing from Wenger that worries me. He has favorites and will try to squeeze them into the starting line up regardless. He needs to cut that crap and play whoever is in form. Kos cost us this game. At fault for both goals and could have been 3-0 if wasn't Torres being Torres.
It wasn't a great performance from the squad and I have no idea why we weren't pressing Chelsea high up the pitch and making it difficult for them to get out of their own half. It worked wonders last season but we didn't approach the game in the same way this time round. Verms and Kos were pretty bad, Cazorla had an off game and struggled, Poldoski was quiet as usual but shouldn't have been subbed because he's still a threat. Ox had an off game too...how Giroud missed that last chance. Poor really. Chelsea weren't that good either but we just gifted them 3 points. On to the next game.
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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
things can change very quickly but last season we had the best striker in the world spearheading our change.
this year we have giroud who without sounding disrespectful cant hit a cows arse with a banjo.
I thought we were really poor. We looked like we'd played Barca away the day before and had 9 players on the pitch.
Hopefully it's a one off.
Still very worried that we don't have a striker in the squad.
Kos makes terrible mistakes. Two goals were his fault today and he conceded a pen and set up Tevez for the winner in his previous game (but luck was on our side).
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Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner
Funny you say that, been thinking the same thing tonight, we actually don't have a world class striker in this team and i include poldi in that. Yes we have been scoring goals but when you really need them, you need that world class striker.
Thought watching RVP today, well lets say it may not be him anymore.
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Originally Posted by Grebbo
think its slightly unfair to put all the blame on kos, yes they were horrific mistakes, however verm gave the two free kicks away because he was caught out of position. both cbs to blame, perhaps kos more to blame but hsouldnt have given away free kicks in first place
One thing is for certain: Kos and Verm should never be played together again if Merts is fit.
If Djourou made the mistakes Kos did today, somehow I doubt he'd be given this reprieve of pointing out his partner giving away the freekicks. He'd get slaughtered and rightly so.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Have a rest mate, Kos had a 'mare today but that doesn't mean he's the new Stepanovs.
We win as a team, we loose as a team. Kos was dire but TV 5 gave away stupid Fk's when he should know better. However Kos should have defended them better then he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
koscielny was shit end of.
kept giving the ball away, was pushed around all game by donkey torres and in general looked like a rabbit in headlights.
if we're blaming verm for the free kick leading to the goal then lets blame arteta for losing the ball in the middle in the first place. get a grip.
have no problem testing the kos-verm circus act but not against the european champions.
Prevention is better then cure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner
Philosophical Charlie. :bow:
jesus these highlights get worse.
people pointing fingers and no-one marking from set pieces.
shocking.
learnt a lot from those rehab classes i seeQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
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Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner
You are watching MOTD? Damn man, to watch it live was bad enough but to watch highlights? You sir are mentally strongQuote:
Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner
Exactly how I saw it. The selling policy has taken its toll. That final chance for Giroud summed it all up.Quote:
Originally Posted by hobson's choice
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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Hopefully Giroud will come good, because while the defensive blunders stick out today, there were more than enough chances to win the game had we been more composed in the top third of the pitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Maybe it will start to click for him - I certainly hope so.
The worrying thing is he needs to improve a fair bit to get to Bendtner's level. Can't see how this guy is a step forward or even a halfway measure for the loss of a proper striker. He reminds me a bit of Sherringham but without the eye for goal. A hard working, intelligent but ultimately useless player. He still has time, but even Chamakh started better than this.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
He managed to finish his chances in France, but yeh, it is going exceptionally bad for him now. You can see that he is feeling the pressure but he continues to work hard which is the one positive so far. I think he can come good - at least I hope so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
In an interview he also said he hadn't expected to be starting and assumed he'd get more time to settle. That's not exactly a striker chomping at the bit. On teh other hand it could be a journo making shit up.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
djourou said bould was very influential in the recent improvement in our defence and while it may take a while to smooth out the defensive lapses, we can at least have faith in bould working hard to work on them.
podolski will score 15 or so goals but with no consistent scorer seemingly in the squad our draw column could be pretty big this season.
You know your CF is pretty poor if Gervinho is your top scorer. We really should have considered Llorente as a serious option. If Ba is available in January, even he would be worth a look. Wasn't convinced by Giroud when we signed him, still not convinced now.
It wasnt an easy chance at all but RVC would have scored it 9 times out of 10, So would Rooney. Torres may have scored it or may have missed it altogether and fallen over.
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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
its so early to judge him - we have only played 6 games.I still think Podolski could score quite a few - cant understand why he was taken off today at all.
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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Chamakh did make a better 1st impression though. I don't see why we don't start him, it couldn't be any worse. Or even Recall fatty (Bendtner)Quote:
Originally Posted by jelgoon
Apparently we are only allowed to play one out and out striker when we are losing
Wenger logic :bow:
I think my annoyance has gone now. We're not going to attain our usual 70ish points by winning every game. :whistle:
We have read the " fuck" , the " welcome back Arsenal " , the " I'm really pissed " , etc.. etc.. They are just emotional reaction after an unexpected and disappointed defeat . A loss is always a loss . Having played badly or not , there are 3 points dropped .
This is the same team we cheered up with joy a few days ago . We can't lose hope this soon as the way is still long . Every team will have their ups and downs . Yesterday was ours and United's .
Back to the game , I was not shocked for the result . I wasn't expecting us to lose in the first place . But when I saw the line-up it changed my mind strait away . Gervinho , despite his good goal shouldn't have started as CF . He is too lightweight and clueless to trouble a weightlifter defense of Chelsea . Giroud should have started the game . Or I would have preferred Theo as he has a good record against them and his pace and finishing ability could have push them back .
Our best central defense pairing has proven to be either Metersacker and Verm or Metersacker and Kos . Why change this ? The German is a good game reader and a good defense organizer . Why put him on the bench for such a crucial game ?
Theo on the right could have reduced Ashley threat and push Chelsea back . Gibbs showed he was having a bad day . It would have been wise to replace him with Santos .
My line-up would have been:
Manone
Jenkinson Metersacker TV5 Gibbs ( then Santos)
Arteta Carzola Diaby
Walcott Podolski
Giroud
Chelsea don't have a world class striker and they're top of the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Every team will lose games, how we react to this will tell us a lot about this team.
I would certainly go after Ba in January. Especially if it becomes apparent Theo is going to leave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle?
It certainly wasn't our best performance but I don't think we deserved to lose though. We had the chances to equalise and gifted their goals. Chelsea were superior in controlling the game, they played more assured and found Torres and Cech in fine form.
As for us, we all know we are competing for 4th. Dropping Mertesacker was wrong, he gives stability to the back four whereas Verm and Kos should be stopping going forward like heedless chickens when the game is still on. Jenkinson was our best player - think Sagna will leave in the summer.
Our passing was slack and Ramsey had a shocker as usual. Don't see him as a starter. Chambo was poor and our lack of a threatening CF was there for all to see when Giroud...well...:banghead: