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Timing. All of the top clubs have recently changed managers. They can't all fire their current managers to make way for Klopp and if that were to happen, it just means there is another top manager out there without a club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Over the last few years I've made the point that a quick team isn't simply the by product of quick players. I never thought signing Welbeck and Sanchez would be a quick fix....and so it proves. We need to set up like a team who wants to play to quickly if we are to play like that.
I also remember suggesting shortly after we signed Ozil that Cesc is a better player than Ozil. It was almost like I was claiming Welbeck is Ian Wright to quite a few people. I thought that then and I think that now... (the bit about Cesc-Ozil, not Welbeck-Wright) but Ozil is more mobile and there is still a lot that can come from him.
We should also not be blind to the fact that we ourselves have helped break the taboo of players leaving the club and/or joining rivals by the regularity with which we have allowed it to happen. We overplayed the 'we were forced to' card one too many times and now we are increasingly pointing fingers at the old goat at the helm. All while we curse the very ground any player walks on as they get out the fire exit, off the ship and into a lifeboat whilst we watch the band in our front row seats as the ship sinks.
The captain goes down with the ship and the manager has signed a new deal so don't expect a change. Fasten your seats and enjoy the band.
This performance wasn't just shit, it transcended shit, it was a rancid shit served on a bed of turds marinaded in diarrhoea.
Dortmund weren't weakened by injury, it barely mattered, they have a strategy, a tactical plan, an ethos.
It should not have come as any surprise. You always know what you get from a Klopp team - high pressing in large numbers, prodigious workrate, smart closing off of passing lanes and fast counters.
What do we have by comparison? The vague idea that 4-1-4-1 let's us shoehorn Ozil, Ramsey and Wilshire into the same side? Arteta can't hold that position on his own, not against good opposition, Flamini couldn't either. This team still has no identity.
Hummels looked like he was watching live at the Apollo or at the comedy store.
Got sent a Vieira highlight from youtube today.. watched it all...
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Wow :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann
Hard to argue though. There were literally no positives to come out of it.
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Originally Posted by Letters
It didn't rain!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=0b2k6wNBZYU
Bergy > Ozil/ Cunt Fabregas
I just cannot stand this team anymore and the only thing worse than getting wooped by the big teams is the player's reaction afterwards. I remember reading Arteta's reactions last season after the big defeats to the big 5 and he sounds exactly the same each fucking time. "we let ourselves down and cannot do this again" or " we didnt start well and didnt deserve anything" FFS this is the captain saying the exact same shit after each loss and it shows that there is anothing being learnt or done behind the scenes.
Fuck the lot of em.
Arteta is our captain says it all :ilt:Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
:lol: Is he? I honestly didn't know who it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Injury Time
BFG was at the weekend...I think, not that I saw any direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Arteta is officially the Capo
From the 6 group games, we want 3 home wins and 2 away draws. We'll beat Dortmund at home. Not sure we'll top the group though, we'll get enough for 11 points but if Dortmund are more clinical fair play to them. They played very, very well on Tuesday. Klopp deserves a lot of respect.
As said before, it's a complete waste of time and energy playing in this CL competition if we have no chance of winning. We giving our bench players a run out and keeping the main players fit. Guys like Pod, Ox, Campbell, Rosicky...it should be used to give these guys games and a chance to show the manager they should be starting more games.
Taking over from Vermaelen, who also wasn't good enough to make the 1st team - it really is beyond a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve French
Arteta got the armband because he was popular in the dressing room! Its a joke because his footballing ability should also be considered, he is a bench player at best. He doesnt lead his team, he doesnt dominate the middle, he doesnt tackle or put himself about and is easily hurried off the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dein-machine
But yeah, he is popular.
What gives you the idea that he's particularly 'popular' with his teammates? He was given the role mainly because of his seniority, partly because he's been a consistent performer for a few years and partly because of the lack of obvious choices. But it's irrelevant as we know - Wenger kept Vermaelen out the team and so if he feels Arteta is no longer the best option within the squad for that DM role then he won't be starting.
Spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
Arsene himself said "Mikel is very popular with this team mates and they all respect him". Vermaelen was kept out of the side by a very consistant prtnership that lose something like 1 game in 40 games together (90 minutes) not to mention that he was struggling with injuries (he is out injured from the WC) so i wouldnt say the manager was ruthless or anything like that, Kos-Mert made his mind up for him.'Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn
Arteta is the best DCM we have and thats why he starts but thats mainly because the only other option is a washed up Flamini.
True.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
End of the day our captain wears eyeliner.
Lets not overthink things here chaps, of course we're going to get trampled all over.
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Shaped eyebrows and perfect hair too.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOBN
...and as for those laces...Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I can't actually remember the last time Wenger actually bought a defensive midfielder rather than shoehorned someone into that position, it has to be Gilberto.
Flamini was a central midfielder when he first joined us in 2004.
Arteta was also a footballer when he joined us, now he is a cowardly, immobile, lethargic bumpstop. At this point I`d rather see what Coquelin can do than have either Arteta or Flamini in the team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie