Maybe a bad match - but it can't have been competed by two teams as bad as these?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaqiri Is Boss
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Maybe a bad match - but it can't have been competed by two teams as bad as these?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaqiri Is Boss
Don't even know who Johnson is - member of the crowd? Obviously tis isn't a serious final.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
Won't stop the Spuds bakery firing up the overn of course.
7 added minutes.
Fuck, it's the Spuds winning? Assumed it was Utd! Oh no. This is going to be insufferable! Especially for a fanbase that has zero shame.
Spuds win something. :lol:
Football, you're drunk.
:sick: :ilt:
Can’t believe how shit United were, it was so easy for Spurs.
Oh well
On the plus side, it keeps Crocodile Greeky at the club for another season
Not sure what was more shocking. The match itself, or the fact that Manchester fucking United rolled over in a European final for Tottenham Hotspur. Fucking Tottenham.
Oh I could believe itQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Player wise, Spurs are a better side than United. It’s a low bar but there it is
Rolled over implies they were capable of betterQuote:
Originally Posted by Shaqiri Is Boss
HOW can that be acceptable for Utd? Surely every head must roll now? How many billions? How much support? How many sponsorship deals? Yet they can't even grab a Cornflakes Cup when they are rich enough to buy the whole shelf?
They can’t buy fuck allQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
They’ve still got a bigger wage bill than us I think
FSR means that they had to take a chance on big fees yet smaller wages for “promising” youngsters from the continent like Hojlund and Zirkzee who unfortunately for them are just not good enough at this level
I have no doubt that they tried, they are just legitimately shit. I also think the coach is hugely overrated…
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Moving to Australia for a few years till this all blows over.
:ilt:
My point is, how and why and who - steered them into this unbelievable mess?Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
I mean I'm delighted and all.
But if I was a Utd fan (assuming I hadn't already shot myself) I'd be getting the chopping block ready.
We think we have problems at Arsenal?
For once I’m in complete agreement with you. I think United is a textbook example of structural mismanagement from head to toe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Yeah. I had a feeling all week Utd would win because, y'know, Spursy.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
But then just before kick off I realised just how fucking awful Utd are and realised that really Spurs should win.
Didn't watch because why put yourself through that? But it was two awful sides, one just a bit less awful than the other.
I just didn’t care full stopQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I won’t begrudge the Spurs fans that I know personally (especially as one of them is a work colleague and a bit of a Milf…which I feel a bit bad even for saying as she’s a lovely person) having their celebration, even if the idea of them winning anything is a bit distasteful to me….as long as it’s nothing I consider consequential or at our expense I can swallow it
Seems like a bad move, as they'll cover Postecoglu winning it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I do care. But it's not a 2019 situation, that would have been the worst thing ever.
This...well, I think I can file this under "tin pot trophy" and use that as a coping mechanism.
Yes...a Spurs supporting mate also pointed out the schoolboy error I made there.1Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
All the talk about United’s big game mentality and experience was shown up to be bollocks as I suspected it would. They are completely in the mud, a truly dreadful club from top to bottom.
As for Spurs, they’re not much better but you felt they were potentially sharper at the top end of the pitch.
Absolutely awful game that looked every bit contested by the 2 worst teams from our league that weren’t relegated.
Pretty fair summation reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I obviously didn't watch but a shame Man Ure let us down, I guess it had to happen sometime, as I said before there's no disguising spuds've been shite this season, everyone knows it, pub cup or not
Actually laughing at some of my Facebook feed. Some of my Spurs supporting friends hilariously overexcited. One put a picture from last night with the caption “CHAMPIONS”
Champions :haha:
You won the Carabao Cup of Europe, you didn’t sweep aside the cream of Europe or win the title. Embarrassing
Seeing lots of “I can’t believe how bad United are/were” posts on social media
I mean really?
At what point has it not been incredibly obvious how bad they are?
I must admit I keep on expecting them not to be shit.
But they keep being shit.
And it does keep slightly surprising me.
https://youtu.be/GWLLMrQLEXE?si=rReYgOAGkhsWK3Ga
:lol: long way away from those days
It is pretty much rock bottom for them. The only thing worse is relegation and that’s unlikely to happen given the gap with The Championship. How a club of this size has been mismanaged to this depth is quite something.
It really needs to have Boeing as its shirt sponsor for next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Whilst I say I was unbothered by the result of this match (and I am). What I don’t get is the very online mentality of younger fans who wanted Spurs to win because there’s a bigger feud with United fans
Make that make sense
Apparently it’s also about international fans, in Nigeria for example there’s tribal (in the truest sense of the word) antagonism between the United fans and Arsenal fans.
Don’t have any issue with people from any part of the world supporting Arsenal (you tuber called Chef Reactions is an Arsenal fan and I found that out after watching his amusing content) but has to be said, you kind of miss the point of doing so if you genuinely think you’re meant to dislike Man United more than Spurs.
I think I'm just hard wired to assume they will eventually come good, or at least be less shit. Doesn't seem to be happening though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I don’t consider United rival. Historically I guess they are but we haven’t been on the same trajectories for around 20 years. If any Arsenal fan preferred a Spurs win last night then that is really bizarre. Then again most of these online warriors from other parts of the world wouldn’t necessarily “get” football from our perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
YepQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
There is a big difference between being title rivals (which United were once but they sure as fuck aren’t currently) and rivals in perpetuity
A lot of the international fan base has the most online engagement. Don’t get me wrong, I find all the rainbow laces stuff pandering and patronising, it’s also incredibly cynical because it’s all about chasing the pink pound. But you know people from Africa or the subcontinent are out in force when you get :sick: in reaction, and all this talk about anal sex (which makes me wonder if NQ is from Nigeria or Uganda giving he seems to share their morbid fascination with it).
But considering In parts of Africa, witch doctors tell men to cure their AIDS by raping babies…I don’t think they’ve got any standing to accuse us of degeneracy
The international fanbase aren't going to "get" the local rivalry. Why would they?
They live in their online bubble. That's not a criticism, just a fact.
Feels to me a bit daft thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
It’s like if I decided to start supporting Borussia Dortmund (they are my favourite German club but I can’t go as far as to say I support them) yet make no effort to appreciate the mutual loathing between them and Schalke.
I hate to sound all Mac76 who seems to me to think all Arsenal fans should look upon Spurs the way Inigo Montoya looks upon Count Rugen. But there’s a point that if you can’t at least understand the local history and sporting animosity that you aren’t truly a fan.
I think you can understand it from anywhere but it is different when you live in North London and are immersed in it.
For example, in '91 after the FA Cup Semi-Final - it was the first really big game I'd been to - I remember on the Monday morning walking in to the 6th form common room and literally a cheer going up from the Spurs fans. I still wake up screaming. No fan in Nigeria or Hong Kong or wherever around the world is having that experience. They're not going on trains full of Spurs fans going to or from the game. It has to be a different experience.
I’m not sure experiences need to be that raw or visceral to be understoodQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I’ve known Spurs fans my whole life, it seems to me they have warped priorities. Take for instance us winning the league at WHL, they were celebrating because they’d stopped us from winning outright (now I was pretty pissed off about that at the time, but if Spurs won the league at the Emirates with a draw I’d be mortified).
I almost certainly wouldn’t watch a north london Derby with any of them, but England games? All the time.
I haven’t experienced the thuggery that some here who are old enough may have experienced, and in the interminable debate about whether football has improved or regressed. I think we can all (hopefully) agree that those days largely being long gone is a sign of progress.
I don’t think you really need the ingrained memories of either savagery or heart rending humiliation to get it. You just need to know that both clubs are from North London, and in terms of success it’s a bit of a one sided rivalry it’s a rivalry all the same. And that because of this, wanting them to win even a second tier European trophy against a has been Manchester United is anathema to our traditions
But Man Utd are a much bigger club globally.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
If you're in bongo bongo land your day to day experience may well be ManUtd fans being the utter cocks and you know they'll be peacocking around for ages if they are rubbish all season and then blunder their way to a trophy. You might not even know many Spurs fans.
In that context I guess I get it.
Maybe but it still means you’re not really a proper Arsenal fanQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
It’s like how in the Mafia you get made men and you get associates, most of whom would never get their button because they aren’t pure Italian or something.
They are associate fans