Theo has had one bad game and people already want a League one standard player to replace him? :blink:
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Theo has had one bad game and people already want a League one standard player to replace him? :blink:
I would tend not to agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
A great many goals are preventable, but occasionally you just have to take your hat off to great attacking play or supreme indivdual skill.
I agree with the overall sentiment though. Being unable to acknowledge the qualities of your opponent strikes me as overly Arsecentric.
Gingers4Limpar. Not as much fun as his name suggests.
You get me wrong mate. I meant that if you wanted to be pedantic, you could say that every goal was preventable. Like you say, some times you just have to doff ya cap to a wonderstrike....Quote:
Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann
I think we've become so introspect about our defensive liablities, that EVERY goal we EVER concede now is used as a stick to beat the team up. They balls up quite a bit, fair dos, but goals get scored against everybody...not just us.
solely blame song for their goal. their player was running towards him, then cut outside to the right hand side. he was going nowhere. we had 2 players surrounding him yet song the idiot feels the need to stick out a leg and trip their player.
typical rash thinking from the idiot. giving away needless freekicks in positions we shouldn't. wondering if he has a brain in that orange blonde head of his.
Dont blame anyone for the goal.
Great strike. Unstoppable
needless freekick given away.
so i blame song.
Still a lot to do after the free kick
if he floats it's his faultQuote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
if he drowns its justice
FFS
oh be quiet. i hardly criticise alex and have in fact stuck up for him over the years even when other people have been against him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over
however last night summed his temperament up, made a needless and rash challenge.
but had a good game apart from that.
bit tetchy arent we love
no far from it. just venting a bit of frustration. that's what this forums for pal.
you dont say, as is a bit of playful banter
but theres word going round that such a thing is lost on some........wonder who?
Let's just agree to agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
two interesting facts i learnt from last night. first being that dortmund havnt lost at home to an english team since the 60's, so that shows that its fucking tough place to go and a point is dam good.
also second one, mainly for joker this one really, but Rvp scored his 98th goal last night. for someone who is supposdly shit, doesnt score in big games etc etc, thats a lot of goals in 6 years
Yes, and BD are champoins of Germany and no push over, we groaned when we were drawn with them so we always knew it was going to be difficult, just think some were not so much doubting their credentials more we were not at our imperial best........which I think we are still some way off from seeing......I think 1:1 is a very decent result, wish we hadn't conceded but BD were intent on going for it
RvP is the man....will have the odd shit game, may seek the left peg too much but in no way is he a bottler
Joker probably wont answer.......getting ready for the Citeh game tonight!
No :angry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann
98 goals in 6 years is good for a midfielder
For a top class striker, its average
He's obviously not played as many games as he should have though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
But then he's only played half the games. So when he's healthy, which is about half the time, he's pretty top drawer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
We're the first English team to play them at their home since 18 March, 1968 when Crewe Alexandria beat them 8-1.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
As great men have said in the past, RVP's only problem is staying fit.
His goal and assist record is comparable to anyone.
He worked hard to win that ball in the first place as well.
Some Drogba-esque defending from him too last night.
No Joker RVP thread though, which is disappointing.
I blame GB..
http://www.scribbleoneverything.com/...artoon/bam.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
i dont give a fuck if the Germans were unbeaten at home etc etc
My issue is with Wenger and the same old shit....the tactics, the 75min subs, the defending etc.
Oh and we looked good in defending because they made us sit back so we became compressed...naturally.
It is a far cry from being raped because we try and attack but play this fucking ridiculous high line which Wenger insists on, if we had a chance to keep possession and attacked these guys we would have reverted to type.
The issue is Wenger, Wenger, Wenger and i was firmly in the Arsene we trust brigade for a long long time...for whatever reason the guy has lost the plot and i dont even remember our last world class performance..perhaps when we beat Chelsea at home last year 3-1 (lets not say we were better than Barca when we beat them at home)
Shit tactics, shit management and now we are close to having shit overrated footballers bar a few.
Yesterdays shit draw changes none of the above and until Wenger decides to change we will see this kind of performance throughout the season.
I wouldn't mind 1-1s at difficult European grounds tbh.
Rice made the substitutions.Quote:
Originally Posted by gunnerrrrr
Because we played the German Champions, people are seeing a different performance and praising it, but if we play that way next week against Blackburn, the knives will come out.
Dortmund are a good team but our team has serious problems and our performance was more down to us lacking confidence, direction and cohesion. Dortmund should have rolled us over but it's not because they are so good. Credit to them as a team but you can't ignore the sort of performances we've put over the last few games.
We didn't prepare well for that game and if you go back to Wenger's comments about attacking to keep super Mario quiet, you can see that it didn't go according to plan on the night. We could barely string together 3 passes. They pressed us and kept a high tempo but we couldn't do the same. This is why you've got to question Wenger's tactics. When we don't have the ball....what next? Does he have a plan for that? We don't seem to have an effective defensive strategy and are incapable of winning the ball back or dealing with teams that press tight and with numbers. We struggle to put away lower league teams because our attacks are too slow but when we come up against elite teams, we're going to struggle because we have no clue what to do without the ball and judging from Wenger's subs, he has no idea either.
at 75 mins exactly...they are and always will be Wengers subsQuote:
Originally Posted by GB.
someone who actually knows what he is talking aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Not at all yesterday was not about perfomace it was about getting the teams confidence up by getting a point and a draw and we achieved it. People are praiing the effort of the players not the tactics. and Wenger had nothing to do with changes or tatcis all down to rice yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
WFT you on about we got a good point at a hard place neraly one the things thats all that matters in the early stages. Barca never put a world class perfomace on. this was the ist game of the Cl ffs not the 1/4 final.Quote:
Originally Posted by gunnerrrrr
It was a good point at a tough place.
Unlike at the weekend where a performance was needed, yesterday was all about getting a result and we got that
Job done
Most disappointing thing about Dortmund was their end product and shooting. Despite pretty football they really lacked a cutting edge, many of there shots were gentle shots or just off target. In truth they didn't really threaten the goal that much.
Was a bit disappointed with them to be honest, think they could use a quality striker up front as well, thought they were very wasteful.
Dortmund will give anyone a game at home and it's generally accepted they are a very good team. We drew the short straw in getting them from the pot of so called whipping-boys.
There's really no need to disect last night too much. I thought we defended well for the most part and any other side would have been praised for a brave and robust performance. No one is saying we weren't without our faults but we've all seen far worse from this team and against lesser opposition as well.
anything to have a go at Arsenal eh. you can't give credit where its due, Dortmund where as good as they could have been yesterday not our problem, you go on like you wanted us beatern maybe you did.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Like Lucas Barrios?Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Not sure, not familiar with him though he seems to have a good goal record.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Was he injured?
Not really thought we were pretty sh*t, defended ok enough but the rest of our game going forward was poor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Dortmund were the better team they just had no cutting edge, aside from the wonderstrike they barely had any decent efforts on goal.
Now this I can agree with!Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
if you honestly believe that then you're deluded. you think wenger said to pat, 'listen do what you want and call the shots' ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
not a chance. wenger will have sat down with pat before the game for an hour and listed out all the different possibilities and what to do depending on how the games going.
and if he didn't do this he needs to be sacked because it's basic responsibilities expected from a manager who's paid £6m a year.
Harsh to say we were shit, but its your Opinion so i repect it, we went there and did what we needed and get the point all gooners would have taken at the begining of the night. Obviously things need to change and we need to perform much much better.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe