Transfer News, Rumours and Bollocks Thread

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by StamfordBrdige

What exactly do you mean by the bit in bold? I'm talking about player recruitment and nothing else.

Are you saying the board tells AW who to sign or not sign?

---

Of course they would have an input. Wenger doesn't sign the cheques, does he?

It seems pretty obvious to me, and to all and sundry that the clubs focus from board level is to secure ECL, spend little (they'll say wisely, but that's clearly not true), pay off the debt in big lumps, and leave Wenger to do what he does.

Now. Wenger is on board with this. But he doesn't bloody have the final say in what we spend. He gets a budget, and whether he chooses to spend that on signings, or wage hikes or anything on the pitch is his decision. He has bollocksed it up in a lot of ways....but then again, he was the one who bought Nasri, boughts Cesc, bought Vieira etc etc etc....they're pretty decent players IIRC.

So. What are we left with?? A board who has final say over what is spent. A set agenda (regardless of what we have in the bank), with a future debt-free period when a new manager will come in and have lots of fluffy lovely wonga to spend.

I'm saying that Wenger has sacrificed quite a bit. I mean, he's sucking all this shit up is he not, regardless of the good things he's done?? He'll know he deserves it for some of the tinkering, I have no doubt. So is it because he's selfish and arrogant and lost the plot??? Or is it because we're a well run business, where he plays his part, and will forsake some credibility to meet those demands??

Like I said. There's a middle ground. And some people don't seem to see that.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by StamfordBrdige

What exactly do you mean by the bit in bold? I'm talking about player recruitment and nothing else.

Are you saying the board tells AW who to sign or not sign?

---

See my last post. #5079

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by LDG

It seems pretty obvious to me, and to all and sundry that the clubs focus from board level is to secure ECL, spend little (they'll say wisely, but that's clearly not true), pay off the debt in big lumps, and leave Wenger to do what he does. Now. Wenger is on board with this. But he doesn't bloody have the final say in what we spend. He gets a budget, and whether he chooses to spend that on signings, or wage hikes or anything on the pitch is his decision. He has bollocksed it up in a lot of ways....but then again, he was the one who bought Nasri, boughts Cesc, bought Vieira etc etc etc....they're pretty decent players IIRC.

So. What are we left with?? A board who has final say over what is spent. A set agenda (regardless of what we have in the bank), with a future debt-free period when a new manager will come in and have lots of fluffy lovely wonga to spend.

I'm saying that Wenger has sacrificed quite a bit. I mean, he's sucking all this shit up is he not, regardless of the good things he's done?? He'll know he deserves it for some of the tinkering, I have no doubt. So is it because he's selfish and arrogant and lost the plot??? Or is it because we're a well run business, where he plays his part, and will forsake some credibility to meet those demands??

Like I said. There's a middle ground. And some people don't seem to see that.

---

:gp:

Since when was Sense allowed in this thread

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by LDG

It seems pretty obvious to me, and to all and sundry that the clubs focus from board level is to secure ECL, spend little (they'll say wisely, but that's clearly not true), pay off the debt in big lumps, and leave Wenger to do what he does.

---

Where did you get that from? My understanding is our stadium debt repayments are the same every year and we don't over pay (the only loan we did settle early was for the Highbury flats).

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Grebbo

Where did you get that from? My understanding is our stadium debt repayments are the same every year and we don't over pay (the only loan we did settle early was for the Highbury flats).

---

My understanding of big lumps is 25million a year....but there we go!

Quote:

---

1206: Football-manchester united are to sell off a significant stake in the club in singapore to partly pay off their £515million debts, bbc sports editor david bond reports. It is understood the club have now lodged a listing application with the singapore stock exchange and could float by november.

1201: Football- the liverpool echo reports that liverpool striker david ngog is close to a £4m move to bolton. The deal is not linked to the reds' attempts to sign defender gary cahill from the reebok

---

bbc

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by LDG

It seems pretty obvious to me, and to all and sundry that the clubs focus from board level is to secure ECL, spend little (they'll say wisely, but that's clearly not true), pay off the debt in big lumps, and leave Wenger to do what he does.

Now. Wenger is on board with this. But he doesn't bloody have the final say in what we spend. He gets a budget, and whether he chooses to spend that on signings, or wage hikes or anything on the pitch is his decision. He has bollocksed it up in a lot of ways....but then again, he was the one who bought Nasri, boughts Cesc, bought Vieira etc etc etc....they're pretty decent players IIRC.

So. What are we left with?? A board who has final say over what is spent. A set agenda (regardless of what we have in the bank), with a future debt-free period when a new manager will come in and have lots of fluffy lovely wonga to spend.

I'm saying that Wenger has sacrificed quite a bit. I mean, he's sucking all this shit up is he not, regardless of the good things he's done?? He'll know he deserves it for some of the tinkering, I have no doubt. So is it because he's selfish and arrogant and lost the plot??? Or is it because we're a well run business, where he plays his part, and will forsake some credibility to meet those demands??

Like I said. There's a middle ground. And some people don't seem to see that.

---

The bit in bold is the crucial thing here. He gets a budget just like SAF, King Kenny etc. The difference is that he spends it on kids and has no problems paying a shitload for kids but seems to be against paying similar amounts for experienced PL players. This is his own doing and no one else's.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by LDG

My understanding of big lumps is 25million a year....but there we go!

---

Well yeah but the Cesc and Nasri money is new money and wont be used to pay down the debt.

So he has at least £50m to spend.

If only he could find the right players. Oh well.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by LDG

My understanding of big lumps is 25million a year....but there we go!

---

Yes and you were able to meet those repayments while at highbury which was a much smaller stadium and didn't bring in anywhere as much money as the emirates does.

It's like me making a salary of £15,000 a year and paying rent of £400 a month. I then get a job paying £25,000 a year and moan to my friend that i dont have any money cos my rent is too high even though i'm still living in the same £400 a month flat. WTF? Clearly the rent is not the reason i don't have any money cos my wages has gone up by 66% while my rent has stayed the same.