It’s all a bit pathetic really.
If we have agreed a fee and personal terms & Dortmund bosses want shot of him, then surely they aren’t gonna
just keep him there?
That would be a stupid decision.
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It’s all a bit pathetic really.
If we have agreed a fee and personal terms & Dortmund bosses want shot of him, then surely they aren’t gonna
just keep him there?
That would be a stupid decision.
you mean like how we did with sanchez and cityQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeebus
That wasn’t the same at all. We didn’t agree the fee with them the first time round and Wenger didn’t want to sell, then this time Sanchez and his agent got greedy and priced themselves out of a deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ
Wait a sec. They want Llorente AND Morates? WTF? No team would carry that tonnage of shit by accident, so what's their angle?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumbledore
That made me literally laugh!! Disgusting threesome!Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
Chortle! :lol:
FFS Dortmund.....just take anybody you want on loan apart from Ozil, Wilshere and Mihiki. Literally! Just take them all.
Rafa Honigstein(sp?) reckons City tried to sign Aubameyang in 2016 for 70m Euros but it was turned down.....
Giroud agreed terms with #CFC who bid €20m. #AFC, after long delay, accepted yesterday only to be told offer no longer on table (L'Equipe)
Report says talks b/w #CFC & #AFC re-opened last night. Monaco, like BVB, keen. But Giroud wants London & faces 'longest 48 hrs of his life'
That is such a low fee to sell a quality player to our rivals. Why are we so shit at selling players for respectable money?
Flog him to West Ham if he wants to stay in London so bad. They’ll probably pay top dollar too.
Why don’t we swap Giroud for Batshit, then sell him to Dortmund?
It's not really stupid on their part. Unlike our situation with Alexis, Aubameyang still has 3 or 4 years left on his contract. Dortmund don't have that risk of losing him for nothing so they can afford to just say no if they don't have a replacement first. And why shouldn't they?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeebus
We shouldn't have waited until the eleventh hour to make a reasonable offer. If we offered £60m on the 1st of January the deal would have been done by now and Dortmund would have enough time to bring in a replacement. We're the stupid ones.
Have we managed to fuck it up AGAIN?
From Ornstein.
But they aren't going to lose him for nothing as an offer is on the table that they have agreed to. They have dropped him twice this season and the directors want him gone from the club, so their stance of only letting him leave if they find a replacement is stupid as we would be in the same situation on the 1st as we are in now - waiting for them to find a replacement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
I know time scale is a factor but it doesn't change the circumstances of the situation.
Ideally everyone wants to find a replacement, but most clubs sell, then start shopping.
Basically we hold all the cards, if we sell Giroud to Chelsea, then Batshit can replace Auba and everyone is happy.
We paid 12m for Giroud (i know it was a long time ago but still) and Chelsea have offered 18m, which isnt bad for a second choice (3rd choice if Auba comes) striker.
This is too funny, we won't sell Giroud until we sign someone (which was odd as Dortmund were willing to sign him and we said no, almost as if to scupper the deal). Chelsea baulking at the asking price for Giroud which considering he's 31 and not much of a goalscorer is understandable.
We can quite feasibly mess up the deal for Aubameyang and then look like the innocent party to many fans (le'ts face it, that's probably what we want, what other reason did we have for not wanting to sell Giroud to Dortmund).
I'll laugh my head off if we fail to sign Aubameyang after all this hype, if we'd offered enough money in the first place Dortmund would have all the time to sign someone, instead we messed about giving them two days to find a replacement (and let's face it no club wants to sell someone and not have a replacement in January
We're well and truly messing this up :haha:
Zim I’m pretty sure no fan is going to view us as the innocent party if we don’t get him.
The club will be crucified.
I'd agree with you but there seems to be a group of Arsenal fans with every excuse under the sun (those that have stuck with Wenger), as I've said what we're doing here is the bare minimum in reality, we're not spending any money really, just money from player sales, considering the ticket prices and cost of everything at the club and the net spend over the years that's not really enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Obviously it would be great to get Aubameyang, but we should expect that after losing Sanchez and selling Ox, Coquelin, Walcott, in fact we should expect more in reality, somehow the club seem to have turned this into some massive deal and proof that things have changed without actually spending any money.
Another false dawn IMO and I'm not falling for it, but mark my words many will, that's one of the reasons Wenger has been in charge so long.
It's like Bale/Ozil situation again. Everyone's waiting for the other to make the first move so all the dominos can fall into place. No one's prepared to make the first move. :doh:
Don't like selling Giroud to the Chavs for so low but if that's what needed to complete the Aubeymang deal then ffs go for it. I don't think people realise just what an improve he is to all our current forward options.
It's easier said than done from my laptop screen, but we should not have allowed the Aubeymang deal conditional on Dortmund finding a replacement.
Only we can manage to shoot ourselves in the foot whilst making a world class signing :haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
We do also have to remember, that there is clearly more going on behind the scenes than we are being told.
I'm sure it will all fall into place as its technically 3 players that want to move.
Other clubs are just starting to observe the waiting period :coffee:
We shouldnt be strengthening another rival.
Agreed.
I would rather keep Giroud and tell Dortmund to take the money and worry about their replacement on their own time. They have players anyway as they have managed to play with Auba a few times already.
But that aint gonna happen.
Crazy stuff. This season alone, if we sell Giroud to Chelsea, we'd have sold our top 3 goal scorers to rival English clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumbledore
We could have avoided this Giroud situation... but surely those critical of Sanchez for moving to Man Utd have to hold Giroud to the same standard. It's worse because Giroud had a choice between Dortmund and Chelsea from the sounds of it and he's choosing Chelsea despite the fact that he may be on the bench there as well.
It's not the same situation at all. Not even close. Come on.
If someone does sign him they have this to look forward to
https://youtu.be/UNpHOr4NnPw
I didn't say it was the same situation. I'm saying those critical of Sanchez moving to Utd should probably hold the same stance for Giroud. To me, it looks worse. If Giroud is moving for first team football, why move to Chelsea instead of Dortmund?Quote:
Originally Posted by GP
You forgot the part where his missus ruled out moving to Dortmund.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
Aubergine has been video'd at the airport catching a flight somewhere...
https://twitter.com/RN_Florian/statu...14081546629120
Doesn't sound like Bif wants to move at all, but he has no choice if he wants game time enough to get into the world cup squad and he's clearly #3 at Arsenal if Aubameyang arrives. Sounds like it's very much for football reasons and I haven't heard a mention of money or demands - except from Arsenal of course, over the fee. Which this time I agree with. In this market Giroud is easily worth 35-40 mill. Easily. But, as others have said, he's not worth that to us if it ends up scuppering the Auba move.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
Way back at the start of the window the papers knew the fee for Auba was 53mill. We've ended up agreeing 53-54 mill. Having dragged the whole thing out until the last minute. Why did we do that? What was the 45mill bid all about? If this deal falls through the entire blame sits on Arsenal.
But he's OK going to a rival London club? It doesn't mean he has to leave. I get it's a complex situation but you always get a few hypocritical fans that are now quick to see the other side of the story when it involves their favourite player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
I agree with Emirates gooner....we should have pushed for a non conditional deal, though perhaps Dortmund were deliberately being obtuse. Leave Dortmund to sign their own players without us getting involved FFS.
I remember well, those criticising Sanchez and praising Giroud for loyalty last summer when in reality it is simply circumstances dictating heroes or villains. I'm not surprised Giroud is open to a move to Chelsea and I don't hate him for it neither.
I'd rather keep Giroud but if he has to be sold.....
Giroud is worth more than 15/20 million in this market but Sanchez is worth more than a Mhikitarayan in this market...even with a contract running down.
I have no issue with Alexis moving to United and I would have no issue if Giroud went to Chelsea.
One guy was fed up here and who could blame him. The other needs to play football and if he can continue living where he is to appease his family then so be it.
It's the club who are choosing to strengthen a rival, the players are just doing their job.
Auba on a private jet into London
He’s not doing a Odemwingie is he?
He's at the training ground apparently
Someone tell Giroud's butterz wife to get a grip.
We are strengthening every team in Europe by keeping Wumger TBF.....We are the only team in football history to have been annexed by its manager. Imagine if Wenger had enough money to buy this club....he would never leave, take stem cell tablets until he was 150 yrs oldQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
We could save a few bob by using the same priivate jet to take Giroud to Germany.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumbledore
Why are people concerned about Giroud going to Chelsea. It wont strengthen them - like he hasnt strengthened us. Having said that I'd rather get rid of the even more shitter Welbz.
finally after years of gooners telling the old fraudster that you cant polish turds - he has finally woken up to the the fact that Ox, Theo, & Giroud were simply never good enough. He could throw Ramsey, Welbz, Xhaka & Iwobi into the fire aswell because again - they are not good enough & the old goat will only see that in about 2021, when he's considering another 2 year contract.
With Auba we go into back end of this season looking promising as an attacking force but very vulnerable at the back. TBF a startign line up of Cech, Bellend, Monreal, Mustafi, Kos, Xhaka, Jack, Mikhi, Ozil, Lancazette & Auba is actually our strongest starting 11 for a long time but we have absolutley zero back up on the bench, especially in defence. The thought of having to play Merts, Holding or Chambers is horrifying & we should not be in that position.
Pregnant wife. Doesn't want to leave London. It's understandable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner