A quality player who can help take you to the next level, not some 30+ has been who never was.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
He was sh*at West Ham, sh*t at Liverpool, sh*t at Chelsea and is and always has been sh*t tbh.
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A quality player who can help take you to the next level, not some 30+ has been who never was.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
He was sh*at West Ham, sh*t at Liverpool, sh*t at Chelsea and is and always has been sh*t tbh.
Great player.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Not the type of player we need or want if we want to move to the next level and not stay Manc clubs and Chelseas bitches which some on here are more than happy for us to beQuote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Yossi was a very good squad player for us this season and we wouldn't have finished ad high as we did without him. Anyone who can't see this is deluded and idiotic. Of course he shouldn't be a regular starter for us if we want to improve. Would've been nice to hold on to him as cover though.
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/...-boss-hitzfeldQuote:
Switzerland manager Ottmar Hitzfeld has urged defender Johan Djourou to seek a move away from Arsenal in order to improve his chances at international level.
The 25-year-old has struggled for playing time this year after falling behind Thomas Vermaelen, Laurent Koscielny and Per Mertesacker in the Gunners’ pecking order, and this has had an adverse effect on his international career.
Djourou was on the bench in Switzerland’s 5-3 friendly win over Germany on Saturday, as Cesena’s Steve Von Bergen started alongside ex- Arsenal centre-back Philippe Senderos in the heart of the Swiss defence.
Hitzfeld explained that this exclusion was due to lack of match practice, and encouraged Djourou to leave Arsene Wenger’s side in search of first-team football as Switzerland gear up for the start of their World Cup 2014 qualification campaign.
"For Djourou, the question arises of a transfer," Hitzfeld told RTS Sport.
"If he wants to be selected, he must have some game time in the club. This is not the case at Arsenal."
Djourou previously spent time on loan at Birmingham City in order to ensure his selection for World Cup 2008, and signed a new three-year contract extension at the Emirates Stadium in February.
Bye
Also world cup 2008 :bow:
he was a solid good squad player - every club can't have two superstars for every position like cityQuote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
your assessment comes across like that of a 5 year old. seriously.
Nothing wrong with Yossi tbf. Obviously not the type of player to springboard us to another level, but I'd rather have him available to do a job than Eboue, Bendtner, Denilson and any other shit Wenget has tried to flog in recent memory.
Not really, he's been overrated his whole career, very ordinary player in all honesty in addition he's gettng on a bit now. Arteta I can live with as a squad player but not this guy, have always thought he was sh*t, don't see why my opinion should change just because Wenger decided he fitted into our cheap as chips transfer policy tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
We've got plenty of midfielders anyway, what we need is some quality ones, we don't need Bennayoum.
I'd agree with that, however none of those players should have been anywhere near our club in reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Hopefully, shocking how long this guy has lasted at the club, he's one of the original youth flops isn't he?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Project Youth :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Yeah what a great project that was, really paid dividends, after all we were 2% away from domination at one stage :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Exactly. He was never a final solution, but he was a good, reliable player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
well actually yes. you judge a player by his contribution right? so that's a winner away to villa, which without we would be fourth. a standing ovation after a great game at home to spurs and again at home to city. scored away to wolves, then at home to norwich and again in our all important game away to wba.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
ask liverpool and west ham fans and they will all remember him fondly. he was the most underwhelming of all our signings this season and ended up being the most surprising package.
your past two post clearly point out that you are not objective and rely on outdated perceptions. the facts are there to see.
So I'm not aloud to think he's sh*t, even though I've always thought so? So he scored a few goals, big deal, you mention a handful of matches, hardly an amazing contribution. Sorry but I'm glad we're not keeping him, he wasn't good enough for Liverpool or Chelsea, don't see why he's should be good enough for us either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
I'd say Oxo was our most surprising signing, he proved he's got star quality even if he was not played as much as he should have been.
Let's not forget we lost two star midfielders last summer and he was one of the replacement's supposed to fill the gap left behind, what a sh*t deal for us.
Decent squad player.
Horribly inconsistent but not bad as a back up.
you can think what you like but when it is obvious his contribution has helped the team a lot this year, to keep on calling him shit just makes you look stoopid.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
what amount of contribution would make you happy from a squad player?
also, how much of a difference did those two big players make to our final position last season?
As a squad player he's an OK option, trouble is when you looked at our bench this season it was horribly weak, we need some game changers in the bench as well and he isn't really one of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
We lost Nasri and Cesc, two key players for us who contributed a lot in terms of assists and goals and replaced them with Arteta who did OK but was unspectacular Bennayoun who I'd say was average overally and Oxo who was basically seen as one for the future clearly. Bennayoun is the player who actually should have been a regular to replace Nasri, he should never have been a "squad player".
Quite often this season we've lacked creativity and that's due to not replacing the players we lost adequately. Regardless of this I'm glad he's not sticking around, reckon we can do better personally.
id actually argue that yossi did more for us last season then nasri did in his final season. no one can deny nasri had an amazing run of form in novemeber/december, he was brilliant yet at the buisness end of the season he went missing. yossi didnt this year, he stood up and helped us get over the line. every club needs a yossi imo, someone who will work hard and will contribute almost every game.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
just look at how yossi and rosicky did in the second half of the season and look what happened. those two while not being the greatest players, buzzed around the pitch, harrased everyone and we started winning.
sure, the bench was weak but we're not debating that, we're talking about benny and his direct contribution.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
gerv was the nas replacement and arteta supposedly the cesc one, we all knew that at the start of the season. few of us knew why we had taken him in but it was risk free given the zero cost and it worked out pretty well for a one season option really. he has been a squad player at pool and chelsea, so why would you think he now becomes a first teamer for us? clearly no-one else in or outside the club thought that.
i mean, with nasri and cesc in this team, how different would the season have been? i think we can both agree that it would've been the same. i not meaning to diminish their talent as they have more than benny but it's all about contribution in real terms and not 'potential' right?
Fair point, forgot about Gervinho he's been so bad I've blanked him out my mistake :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
His contribution is reasonable, he scored the odd goal here and there and put in the odd good performance which you'd expect from any player who features in 25 games through a whole season. I still think a squad player should be able to fit into the 1st team if injuries occur and do a good job, I'm not convinced he could on a regular basis and neither were any of his previous clubs by the looks of it.
He's a squad player at best, but at 30+ I think we should be looking at better options hence the reason I'm not disappointed to see him move on.
As for Nasri and Cesc, well they were two top players, not necessarily right for us but two top players nonetheless, from what I can see we haven't replaced them with top quality, Arteta is good but I've been a tad disappointed with him tbh as I thought he was better than he's been for us (injuries have taken their toll no doubt)...we could use someone with a bit of magid who can score some goals from midfield perhaps.
yep we can aim higher than that in terms of profile but in terms of contribution from a bit part player, 6 goals and some very important performances is about the right level.
valencia managed 6 in 38. probably with more assists but he started far more games.
Yossi did a job, not shouting that we sign him nor would I be suicidal if we did but it would have to be as squad support as he is not the catalyst for get greater things. To be honest I believe that he is professional enough to accept that.
He put in a really good shift during his time with us. .for that I thank him
twitter sources with first hand knowledge claim llorente is on his way to arsenal.
Uhuh
Twitter :haha:
yep, twitter deffo exploding, has a podolski feel to it, twitter :bow:
No problem with him leaving. My problem is with some **** manager telling our players to get a transfer. Why doesn't the **** shut his hole about our club and get on with leading his own to glorious obscurity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
some spanish dude says the rumor began in the bilbao camp. twitter :bow:
If it looks like bullshit and smells like bullshit...Quote:
Originally Posted by GunnerFan4Life
No chance of us getting Llorente
Unfortunately i think Twitter is wrong again.
Maybe the 14 year old who made that up was bored?
El Mundo Deportivo's @JaviGomara says there's rumours in Bilbao that Fernando Llorente could be Arsenal bound.
it's from Goal.com?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
Djourou is his player just as much as hes Arsenals tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Most likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suarez Is Boss
Or The Sun.
Are Spain having their pre Euro camp in North London?Quote:
Originally Posted by GunnerFan4Life
RT @Blog_Athletic: Fernando Llorente has called a press conference at the Carlton Hotel on Tuesday.
So we're buying M'Vila, Hazard and Llorente - like that's actually going to happen. We'll be lucky to land one more player. With Podolski signed and Wilshere coming back I don't see much else happening. Maybe a cheap backup for Sagna and some sort of journeyman midfielder to replace Yossi, maybe a cheap striker if Chamakh goes (praying). It'll be more about the players going out I think.
Is the press conference at 7pm?Quote:
Originally Posted by GunnerFan4Life