Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

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22-05-2016, 11:03 PM
Marc Overmars

Everton were pathetic so I think I'd give Lukaku the benefit of the doubt for the end of season tail off. His scoring record for West Brom and Everton is very good so it's fair to suggest he could become a serious player in a better team.

My only reservation about him is that he can be a bit of an oaf, he's not a very polished striker. He reminds of a bit of Adebayor when he first joined us. WUMger managed to elevate his game though so I think he could do the same again.

I'd certainly be wary of the £50m+ price tag though, think we could probably spend that better but if we're talking about Premier League ready solutions, then Lukaku fits the bill.
22-05-2016, 11:07 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...

We signed Eduardo when Liverpool signed Torres. In addition, we had RVP and Adebayor at the time as the strikers ahead of Bendtner.

It seems that people are just making events up to back their viewpoints.

Wenger has made some daft decisions but wow is the revisionism strong on here.

The commentary revolves around Wenger's unfailing ability to allow gaps to develop that are never plugged. And as bonus material when the threat of a gap exists he knows how to exploit that too and ensure we fall right into it. There's no revisionism. This guy has been leaving the squad light for over a decade. He had his money excuses for much of that period, now his excuse is he can't find anyone better than what we have. An obvious lie. I think the wow factor should be pinned on how long he's managed to get away with it. The 2% away from domination thing is an in-joke and exaggeration, but built on a truth. Negligence is the best word to sum it up.
22-05-2016, 11:08 PM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...

We signed Eduardo when Liverpool signed Torres. In addition, we had RVP and Adebayor at the time as the strikers ahead of Bendtner.

It seems that people are just making events up to back their viewpoints.

Wenger has made some daft decisions but wow is the revisionism strong on here.

I would probably highlight 2010 when we signed Chamakh as the problem season. RVP was often out injured but for some reason we went for Chamakh of all players. A good bunch of strikers were floating around Europe at the time but we went for Chamakh.
22-05-2016, 11:12 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

I would probably highlight 2010 when we signed Chamakh as the problem season. RVP was often out injured but for some reason we went for Chamakh of all players. A good bunch of strikers were floating around Europe at the time but we went for Chamakh.

We've started European ties with Sanogo leading the line. There's no hiding place for this guy now. The game is up. It's only because we have nobody with footballing ambition at head office that Wenger keeps his seat. At a real football club a manager this incompetent and negligent would have been booted years ago, but we aren't a football club, we're an investment house. A good one, granted.
23-05-2016, 08:27 AM
Munchies

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

We've started European ties with Sanogo leading the line. There's no hiding place for this guy now. The game is up. It's only because we have nobody with footballing ambition at head office that Wenger keeps his seat. At a real football club a manager this incompetent and negligent would have been booted years ago, but we aren't a football club, we're an investment house. A good one, granted.

:gp:

Surprisingly, Sanoogogoals was pretty good against Bayern, well from what we all expected :lol:

I'd play him over Giroud too, atleast he makes himself a nuisance to defend against
23-05-2016, 08:40 AM
I am invisible

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Originally Posted by Kano

He's 23 and scoring more each season having had a quick look at his stats. Scored more than Giroud in a team that really did become a shambles. He has his faults and areas to improve on but I can't see us attracting a genuine world class striker and I think he's as good a bet as any in terms of potential and will guarantee a certain level of return too.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

Everton were pathetic so I think I'd give Lukaku the benefit of the doubt for the end of season tail off. His scoring record for West Brom and Everton is very good so it's fair to suggest he could become a serious player in a better team.

My only reservation about him is that he can be a bit of an oaf, he's not a very polished striker. He reminds of a bit of Adebayor when he first joined us. WUMger managed to elevate his game though so I think he could do the same again.

I'd certainly be wary of the £50m+ price tag though, think we could probably spend that better but if we're talking about Premier League ready solutions, then Lukaku fits the bill.

I have a feeling Wenger will have looked at the two and decided that he already has a similar(ish) skill set in a forward in Welbeck. I'm only going off stats on shitty old Squawka here, but if they're accurate then there doesn't look to be a whole lot in it per 90 minutes - not £50m+ worth of difference anyway...

Giroud - Welbeck - Lukaku stats >

By far the biggest thing that Lukaku has in his favour there is that very first stat: he's been available for over 3000 minutes of football whereas Welbeck has barely clocked 500! But it doesn't really matter much how we read it - the important thing here is how Wenger will see it, and I can already hear him saying "I already have Danny Welbeck - what would I do with them all when he's fit?"
23-05-2016, 09:26 AM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by Munchies

:gp:

Surprisingly, Sanoogogoals was pretty good against Bayern, well from what we all expected :lol:

I'd play him over Giroud too, atleast he makes himself a nuisance to defend against

His movement and link up play was exceptional. It's just his finishing and how clumsy he looks in front of goal. No shot technique. Can never sort his feet out quick enough to get a clean shot and even if he did he's scuffing the shot and the balls bobbling wide or straight to the keeper.
23-05-2016, 09:40 AM
Niall_Quinn

If we're even talking as if Sanogo has a place on the pitch in an Arsenal shirt under any circumstances, ever, then it shows how far our expectations and ambitions have fallen. Wenger has done a real number on this club. Can you see Sanogo running out for Barcelona? It would be ridiculous. The fans there would think it was April Fools, they'd laugh until they realised it was serious and then they'd be outraged and the manager's time would be up. Barcelona is one of the clubs we were supposed to be trading punches with by now, a decade after the grand financial plan swung into action. So maybe the plan didn't work out but that hasn't stopped the instigators cashing-in again and again. One way street. Anyway, let's just say we're not seriously competing with Barcelona right now. Is it still the plan to do that at some time in the future?

Well let's stop talking about Lukaku then, because that's ridiculous too. Especially at £50mill.

Proper players required now please. Spend the fucking money!
23-05-2016, 09:42 AM
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

I would probably highlight 2010 when we signed Chamakh as the problem season. RVP was often out injured but for some reason we went for Chamakh of all players. A good bunch of strikers were floating around Europe at the time but we went for Chamakh.

For some reason?....you know exactly why we went for him
23-05-2016, 09:42 AM
GP

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Originally Posted by Munchies

I'd play him over Giroud too

I don't wish to be rude, but I've read some dumb stuff on here...

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