This podcast is unbelievable. If this is what we're up against then we have no chance at all. These people need to be locked away for their own safety and everyone elses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
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This podcast is unbelievable. If this is what we're up against then we have no chance at all. These people need to be locked away for their own safety and everyone elses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
The snub for the captaincy over William Gallas was a disgrace. Wenger doesn't reward loyalty but demands it from his players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Wenger doesn't deserve to leave on a high.
Yes it was so tacky how he took the captaincy from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
That 06/07 season Gilberto was the leader of that team. He was so impressive when Henry was out injured that season. He really stepped up as a leader.
I hope if he goes into coaching he's brought back to the club. That's if Arsene not around.
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Originally Posted by Gooner23
Worth checking for Arsenal Vision Podcast. It's more on the tactical side and features Tim Stillman who often has a column over at Arseblog.
Will listen to the Arseblog podcast now.
AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
OMFG!
Poch is no good because he hasn't won anything. Therefore, he couldn't manage Arsenal, he couldn't challenge for a title (even though he did with a cheaper team). Because, of fucking course, we have a real challenger here. Don't we? Koeman the same. Hasn't won, hasn't challenged, he can't manage Arsenal.
BUT - top manager wouldn't come here because they'll go to the chavs and the gypos and Utd, because those clubs have a different business model and it's totally unreasonable for Arsenal to be expected to compete with them. EVEN THOUGH LEICESTER DID!
BUT, from time to time, teams like Leicester pop up. BUT ARSENAL DON'T FUCKING POP UP - DO THEY?
WTF?
You can't argue against this shit. It goes round and round, eating itself. All you can do when faced with a Wengerite is stare blankly, maybe make gurgling noises. It's impossible.
Klopp is shite because, okay, he regularly beats his rivals BUT... he hasn't won a title.
The facht is - every manager other than Wenger is shit. So we already have the best manager and there's no point replacing him.
Indeed, isn't this what the club forced Gazidis to say?
If I agree with these cunts will they go away :doh:
Breaking News: Lacazette asked Wenger not to play him last Sunday because the PL is too tough for him.
Well, that clears that up. All those interviews with Lacazette where he said he couldn't wait to play - all lies.
This podcast is great. Clearing up so much for me. Bellerin played on the left because Wenger has 1,000 games experience.
I could be the manager and doing a fantastic job and wouldn't go on Arsenal fan TVQuote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Whilst I think it's a good forum for fans to vent, it should be beneath a manager to appear on such things
Plus all managers have soft ball questions thrown at them in the main. Was Mourinho really put up under direct media scrutiny and questioning for his childish attitude at Chelsea in the autumn of 2015?.
Brainwashed by Wenger, you'd think the club never existed before Wenger arrived.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Not being funny but he won 3 leagues and 7 FA Cups (3 in a time where it's been 2nd tier) and yes we played some amazing football and had some great players but he's been here for 20 years, on that basis it's not a great return. For 7 years it was great, for 13 it's been rubbish, that's 2/3 of his career here. In all that time not even a European trophy either. He's never reproduced those early days either, so you could question whether his success was in big part down to the leadership he inherited and his knowledge of the French market and nutrition back then.
Great managers remain great for most of their career, not for a fraction of it.
Beneath a manager? To talk directly to the fans?
JesusQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
You're either drinking too much or not drinking enough.
Why on earth would you put yourself through it.
If I wanted to make myself angry I'd watch an episode of TOWIE and take in how those cunts have made Brentwoods reputation even lower than it was already
I wasn't talking about AFTV, I was talking about facing the paying fans which would be totally reasonable considering this club would be nothing without them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Yes the questions are soft, but to be fair Mourinho hasn't really done what Wenger has, he's consistently been successful and turned teams into top sides, this is a bit different this is years of failure, years of mistakes, years of the same.
They haven't made 10,000 substitutions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
But they aren't brainwashed by Wenger. He's not breaking into their homes and hypnotising them. They are CHOOSING to be this fucking ridiculous. Totally delusional.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
See that Sanchez so pissed off threatens never to play for club again!!!
Erm on a YouTube broadcast with a cast made up of characters that are a cross between the muppet show and police academy yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
It's for the birds. Managers should be judged on the performance they get from the team on the pitch. And if that performance is shit they should be answerable to their bosses, that that is contrary to what happens at Arsenal is not a good reason for Wenger to try to answer a question from Troopz
"You err say these words like blood and fam, I do not know what you mean by them"
Are you giving me advice on drinking? Have you drunk 10,000 bottles?Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
And Wenger at his worst did not do to the club what Mourinho did to Chelsea. If they weren't a billionaire club the shit he left them in two years ago would still be bothering them now and for the foreseeable future.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
It's just a fact, you're not going to get a manager answering anything other than what's your favourite book from fans
In what frame of time are we talking?Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Because the likes of Cross and Ornstein are far, far more respectable. Right? And the BBC is such a credible platform? What do those cunts have to do with Arsenal, beyond the brown envelope slipped under the door? You'll find the real fans elsewhere, so why not speak to them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Wouldn't be surprised and with no time left on his contract we're screwed, in 6 months he knows he find another club, he knows he'll play for Chile in the World Cup if they qualify, there's no real motivation for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by rodders
Be different if he had 3-4 years left because he'd know we could leave him in the reserves for as long as we want and sell him for whatever we want.
You expect me to remember that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Plus in all honesty what good would it do?
Do you honestly expect him to come up with a satisfactory answer to the questions?
If someone says why don't you quit or why doesn't the owner sack you? What would you expect him to say? I quite agree with you.
Well if we are talking in the last few hours.....I just wanted to have the chance to say goodbyeQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
He's done a lot worse, Mounrinho won plenty of trophies at Chelsea, then he lost his job (and it happens to the best of them), Mourinho did this for one season before he lost his job, Wenger has been doing this for over a decade, he's made the fans turn against the club....when has that happened at Chelsea?Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Would rather have had Wenger doing what Mourinho do than what Wenger is doing personally, been bored of this stuff for years, nothing enjoyable about this club, same thing can't be said about Chelsea.
Wenger has turned this club into losers, everything about this club, this wasn't the case before he arrived.
I just think he would be put under pressure and would have to answer for his actions, right now he just pretends it's not happening and it's easy for him to do, it's quite different when you know you have to face up to you mistakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Little tidbit that escaped into the media this morning, regarding Alexis:
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The respective chief executives, Ivan Gazidis and Ferran Soriano had been in dialogue all summer but City did not make their first formal offer of £50m until Tuesday.
If Wenger had done what Mourinho had done we'd be fucked for yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Despite your whinging about how bad things are going to be, if Wenger goes at the end of the season provided a proper managerial structure is put in place I think we would see immediate dividends. Wenger is fucking his own legacy and it's incredibly frustrating to watch what an embarassment we are becoming.
Despite the club seemingly being run by Capachan Monkeys, we still do have a squad where a good manager could be getting far more out of them than l'ouisseau is.
Neville set a whole bunch of terms before agreeing to appear. Wenger could do the same. Even if it was another stale event, at least he'd be in the company of some of the people that give a shit about the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Not one of the fuckers at this club have come out and spoken to the fans after the calamity on Sunday and the shambles yesterday. Too fucking cowardly. Nothing to do with it being beneath them.
Must have been a shit conversationQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Trouble is, Stan won't even concede this self evident, face smacking, cold water bucket, fucking simple reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
As I've said with Wenger it would be totally pointless. The only thing fans want from him is his resignation. There is nothing he can say that's going to square how badly he's been doing his job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
And of course they are cowards.
Why would he?Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
If it's not having any huge detriment into this slice of his portfolio why would he give a fuck, he's 4,000 miles away.
Sacking Wenger would mean he has to get personally involved
We should declare war on America. Then Stan's assets could be seized and Wenger could be done for trading with the enemy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
With all due respect that total nonsense, that's just your hatred for Mourinho coming out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Chelsea recovered quickly, not because they are owned by a Billionaire (we're owned by two, one who is richer than Abhramovic) but because the brought a top manager in to replace him quickly.
Replacing Wenger won't be quite as easy, he'll probably choose his successor and move upstairs to make sure he's pulling the strings. It's ironic you say we'd be screwed if that had happened to us, the reality is we are screwed thanks to Wenger, this club isn't in a good place and won't be for a long time and that's largely thanks to Wenger. Our squad is very much overrated, we have some good players yes but if a new manager comes in he would have a fair amout of work to do, new defence, changing the style of play and some midfielders, getting rid of dead wood,new tactics, new coaches, new scouts, new youth setup, new medical team.....he'll have to start again in many ways to get rid of that losing mentality that has been around for over a decade.
Wengers legacy will be failure and how to spin it as success and leaving this club in a horrible state by overstaying his welcome by a decade.
Anyway, that's enough Arsenal for now. Too much of a good thing, and all.
Nah just get some crowd funding going with St Louis fans to hire an Assassin via the deep web
Someone whose happy to be paid in bit coins.
Yes and answers to all the questions we never get an answer to to try and make some sense of the nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
I'd go as far as saying he owes it to the fans and would get more respect for facing people, there's no repercussions for anyone at this club, they can just get on and do whatever they want and nothing will ever happen, quite sad really and for every possible action someone comes up with a reason not to do it, so basically people are just accept nothing can be done, so they have to put up and shut up, sad state of affairs because that doesn't have to be the case.
Every problem has a solution at the end of the day and you'll never know if it works unless you try, that suggestion of boycotting would be very bad press for the club, I understand many have already paid but bad press still affects you in other ways, sponsorship deals etc as nobody wants to be associated with a team with a negative outlook.
Chelsea got a top manager in because they are a billionaire clubQuote:
Originally Posted by Özim
No your nonsense is shaped by your hatred of Wenger. Your argument is based on supposition of what would happen when Wenger goes. It's not likely to be a clean amicable break so its incredibly unlikely he will be retained in any capacity or have a hand in naming a successor.
A club with our infrastructure could absolutely take it in commercially in a way that we aren't at the moment because of Wenger. Media stories about us are ephemeral and the same stories have been written about United, Chelsea and Liverpool in the recent past.
You go on about other fans thinking the club didn't exist before Wenger, yet you show evidence of that yourself when you call him one of the worst managers we've ever had. A statement which shows a shocking lack of knowledge about the clubs history.
We are a big club acting like a mid table club with our current mentality. And that has to change.
Wenger is eroding everything good he's achieved and should have gone in 2014.