Fabregas goes to Barca for £35million

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

john cross on nasri's quotes about wanting to leave


couldnt agree more

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Couldn't agree less, Nasri performed well enough last season and Cesc may not have been at his best but he was stil one of our more creative players but even if he hadn't one player cannot win you trophies by himself, a successful team is a sum of its parts.

It's Wenger and his pompous ideals and stubborn ways causing these problems, noone believes in this team (including the players) and as usual he's doing precious little about changing things....except for the odd project signing here and there.

Former players, fans, experts have pretty said it's worrying, the only one unbothered seems Wenger at the moment, but I suppose he still gets his 6 million regardless so I'm sure he'll enjoy his holidays (like he did last year when he was making money with French TV on the side).

And why the fuck are we still persisting with this failed youth policy????! Signing players like Torral and Belerin is a fucking waste of time, they won't improve things for us next season, most likely they'll be loaned out to gain experience. Moreover, success rates with youth players is generally low (as with all clubs), so at a time when the club is in a difficult situation having won sweet FA for 6 years, it would have been logical to focus on experienced, top quality footballers who are likely to add something of value to the team, hopefully making the team more competitive and go the extra mile to win silverware. Are the two youth players from Barca going to do that? Of course not.

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Originally Posted by Joker

And why the fuck are we still persisting with this failed youth policy????! Signing players like Torral and Belerin is a fucking waste of time, they won't improve things for us next season, most likely they'll be loaned out to gain experience. Moreover, success rates with youth players is generally low (as with all clubs), so at a time when the club is in a difficult situation having won sweet FA for 6 years, it would have been logical to focus on experienced, top quality footballers who are likely to add something of value to the team, hopefully making the team more competitive and go the extra mile to win silverware. Are the two youth players from Barca going to do that? Of course not.

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The "youth policy" has to continue: the club will always need to sign new players in the youth ranks. There are not enough kids in Arsenal's "catchment" area to provide the necessary supply. However, what has to happen is the reliance on the youth players to move rapidly into the senior team.

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Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner

The "youth policy" has to continue: the club will always need to sign new players in the youth ranks. There are not enough kids in Arsenal's "catchment" area to provide the necessary supply. However, what has to happen is the reliance on the youth players to move rapidly into the senior team.

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Agreed. We can still have the academy and youth players coming in. That has never been a problem here and it is exactly what manu do as well. However, what it needs is to be mixed with buying occasional established players and keeping a few key nucleus players to maintain a degree of consistency and experience to complement the injection of new talents.

TBH I am more concern if Cesc stays. Cant help but think that Cesc's body cant handle his new role behind the striker. He never got injured during 4-4-2 days but the new 4-3-3 really did his hamstring. :coffee:

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Originally Posted by milla

TBH I am more concern if Cesc stays. Cant help but think that Cesc's body cant handle his new role behind the striker. He never got injured during 4-4-2 days but the new 4-3-3 really did his hamstring. :coffee:

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Interesting thoughts that I would agree with.

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Originally Posted by milla

TBH I am more concern if Cesc stays. Cant help but think that Cesc's body cant handle his new role behind the striker. He never got injured during 4-4-2 days but the new 4-3-3 really did his hamstring. :coffee:

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I think the lack of rest has a bigger impact than the change of formation tbh, has taking less defensive responsibility really worked him harder?

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Originally Posted by Darth Vela

I think the lack of rest has a bigger impact than the change of formation tbh, has taking less defensive responsibility really worked him harder?

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Less defensive doesn't mean less running. Cesc hamstring was done by his offensive sprint to get behind the defenders. His body just cant handle it, it is not like jogging in midfield to cover the ground, this is the actual runs behind defensive line to get clear shot at goal. IMO it is no coincidence his injury plague started after Wenger moved him higher up the pitch.

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Originally Posted by milla

Less defensive doesn't mean less running. Cesc hamstring was done by his offensive sprint to get behind the defenders. His body just cant handle it, it is not like jogging in midfield to cover the ground, this is the actual runs behind defensive line to get clear shot at goal. IMO it is no coincidence his injury plague started after Wenger moved him higher up the pitch.

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And his lack of rest during the summers. I suppose the real question is whether Fabregas can recover his full fitness.

I don't think he runs any less or any more, imo it isn't a coincidence that his injury problems started after he went 2/3 years without a real summer break but I guess the evidence for both is pretty circumstantial.