Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit

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Originally Posted by Letters

I do not have a mustache, dodgy or otherwise :sulk:

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It's not going to be otherwise, in truth.

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

makes sense. he can stay in germany and....continue winning the league. the cl may arrive once or twice in his career if he's lucky but his current club are well on the way towards similar targets. you mentioned it is up to a club to prove they are one of the elite, so apart from winning the league, becoming one of the best teams in europe and seriously competing for the premier european prize, what else can they do to their current crop of players to prove it is worth staying?

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They could increase the fee they pay agents.

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

makes sense. he can stay in germany and....continue winning the league. the cl may arrive once or twice in his career if he's lucky but his current club are well on the way towards similar targets. you mentioned it is up to a club to prove they are one of the elite, so apart from winning the league, becoming one of the best teams in europe and seriously competing for the premier european prize, what else can they do to their current crop of players to prove it is worth staying?

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They'll continue to lose players for a while, if they reinvest the money in quality and show ambition eventually players will realise they are serious about consistent success and want to stay on.

Ambition plays a big part and that's not simply down to putting a group of players together, when you lose someone you have to show you're willing to re-invest it in quality and to continue moving forward. The other way is big investment which obviously isn't going to happen.

We'd done that hard work a number of years ago but then decided we no longer wanted to compete and thus have gone backwards, we'd now need to build again and change the perception that we're a selling club.

ambition you say? so none of the above things i listed demonstrate that at all? give me a break.

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

makes sense. he can stay in germany and....continue winning the league. the cl may arrive once or twice in his career if he's lucky but his current club are well on the way towards similar targets. you mentioned it is up to a club to prove they are one of the elite, so apart from winning the league, becoming one of the best teams in europe and seriously competing for the premier european prize, what else can they do to their current crop of players to prove it is worth staying?

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As said before and Zimm has just said the same, they have to remain ambitious. The current crop probably have dreams of playing for bigger teams but over time, 10 years from now, if Dortmund remain ambitious, there will be future young players that will want a long career at Dortmund. It’s what we had when RVP joined and the other young players. They grew up watching us win titles and wanted a part of it. Unfortunately, we haven’t come close to repeating that winning formula and we’re now only interested in balancing the books.

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

ambition you say? so none of the above things i listed demonstrate that at all? give me a break.

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2-3 seasons isn't really ambition, it's just putting together a good group of players who happen to be good enough to win, this can be due to circumstances, this can happen at any reasonably sized club, it doesn't show you're one of the big players.

Sustained success or big investment do however.

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Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga

2-3 seasons isn't really ambition, it's just putting together a good group of players who happen to be good enough to win, this can be due to circumstances, this can happen at any reasonably sized club, it doesn't show you're one of the big players.

Sustained success or big investment do however.

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Big investment is ambitious but battling to the top with limited resources may not be?

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Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga

2-3 seasons isn't really ambition, it's just putting together a good group of players who happen to be good enough to win, this can be due to circumstances, this can happen at any reasonably sized club, it doesn't show you're one of the big players.

Sustained success or big investment do however.

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you know what ambition means right?

http://news.arseblog.com/2013/04/exc...n-player-name/

:lol:

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Pep will walk the league with them next year.

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Yep, they will be serious contenders for CL too...they kind of are this season but their team does need upgrading in a few places to be on par with Barca.

They are very close though.

Goetze is a brilliant signing for them, he'll be world class in the next year or two, top top player.