Super Super Quality Transfer Speculation & Shit

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Originally Posted by GB.

Is it too early for us to cash in on Carzola?

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nah; he has already said "it is improtant we replace important players like rvp and song".

he wants out tbf --- already asking for signings. No need to wait till next summer

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Originally Posted by GB.

Is it too early for us to cash in on Carzola?

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i had a feeling cazorla was theo's replacement

i think i may be right

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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...

And that was fine up until about December but after that, the effectiveness he had with Messi waned (Messi's effectiveness did not). When Guardiola needed to change his role slightly from what it was because of the goals they were conceding it was then that it slid towards where they're at with him now (even though it should be taking with a huge grain of salt as the article is by Marca). From then on he found himself on the bench more often.

It won't take time simply because he won't be given time, just like their patience is probably wearing thin with Sanchez. He'll have a role to play but it's mainly going to be from the bench in bigger games - he started against Osasuna but it wasn't until Cesc went off they started to click again.

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Prefer Rikjards Barca to this one tbh, loved the way they played.

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Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner

i had a feeling cazorla was theo's replacement

i think i may be right

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Why not play him in the theo role then?

Milan sign Niang.

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

Prefer Rikjards Barca to this one tbh, loved the way they played.

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I prefer this team, greater clutch of players I enjoy watching.

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Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner

yes what he earns does matter because we're on a self-sustainable model and our wage structure is on its knees at the moment. so what theo earns is of huge significance to our model and club in general, especially as we have the likes of chamakh, squillaci, bendtner, fabianski, park and arshavin still on our pay roll. most of them are unlikely to be shifted before the end of the transfer window so if it's a choice of a) giving theo 100k a week contract or b) selling theo for 15m and buying a quality consistent winger for 100k a week, then i suggest we do the latter.

we've won nothing with the current crop of shite so getting rid is hardly going to affect us trophy wise. however, i do agree with you that the message it sends out is embarrassing. nevertheless we've already seen rvp - our most prized asset - go to our bitter rivals so at this moment in time i couldnt care less about selling little theo walcott. nothing amazes me anymore with this football club and im past the point of caring so he can fuck off like the rest of them. we really are a shambles. what an absolute embarrassment it is to support this club right now in its current predicament.

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That argument about this current crop winning nothing gets washed and rinsed all the time and it's unlikey that we'll use the money from Theo's sale to go on another winger. £15m won't buy us a class winger that can demand £100k a week. IF we buy, we'll probably give them £60k - £70k a week. Also, I'm still looking to the club to spend the money earned from the RVP and Song sales, let's not forget about that money. The model we have is unsuistainable and short sighted. I've explained that already in another post.

It really is embarssing and you have to wonder how it makes the current crop feel about the club they play for. We've already heard Cazorla speak. If we don't spend and replace these players, we're starting off on a losing foot and sour note and that's how the rot starts. Mentally, the sqaud won't be all there for the start of the season and there will be doubts. It doesn't send the right message to the players when we act like this and it's an uphill battle. We'll find ourselves in the same position next summer if we're not careful.

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

Why not play him in the theo role then?

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because up to now we've not needed to. we've had theo there so cazorla stayed in the middle to cover for song's loss of creativity.

wenger said we're in the market for another midfielder so maybe we're going for a creative CM (similar to sahin?) and shifting cazorla out wide to replace theo? that covers both song's loss and the loss of theo.

i dunno man i cant be arsed to double guess wenger. this transfer window has done my head in.

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Originally Posted by gooners

nah; according to wenger he will find his way much quicker to manchester than british-born wilshere and chamberlain.

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or Walcott...lolz!!

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Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner

yes what he earns does matter because we're on a self-sustainable model and our wage structure is on its knees at the moment. so what theo earns is of huge significance to our model and club in general, especially as we have the likes of chamakh, squillaci, bendtner, fabianski, park and arshavin still on our pay roll. most of them are unlikely to be shifted before the end of the transfer window so if it's a choice of a) giving theo 100k a week contract or b) selling theo for 15m and buying a quality consistent winger for 100k a week, then i suggest we do the latter.

we've won nothing with the current crop of shite so getting rid is hardly going to affect us trophy wise. however, i do agree with you that the message it sends out is embarrassing. nevertheless we've already seen rvp - our most prized asset - go to our bitter rivals so at this moment in time i couldnt care less about selling little theo walcott. nothing amazes me anymore with this football club and im past the point of caring so he can fuck off like the rest of them. we really are a shambles. what an absolute embarrassment it is to support this club right now in its current predicament.

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I gotta agree, it's slightly embarrassing that players want to leave, but as you said we didnt win anything with them anyway, what are we really losing out on with Theo going???? I had a feeling that Theo was a goner once I read the article from wenger talking about the british base he wanted to build on...he mentioned gibbs, ramsey, wilshere, jenkinson and the OX, but no Theo...which is strange as you would think that Theo would have been the first name mentioned had wenger been keen to keep him.