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Originally Posted by Letters
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L2 :fury:Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Wenger should be judged on a results only basis. As things stand we are still in the mix for top 4 and in the FA Cup and CL. I think the bare minimum should be Top 4 finish, preferably 3rd and strong runs in both Cups, basically we should be making the FA Cup final, irrespective of whether we draw Liverpool or United assuming we all progress from the 5th round.
If we achieve top 4 and respectable exits/losses in both of those cups then Wenger should be given the summer to get the squad right and get the players in shape for the upcoming season.
Despite our excellent recent form, to date this season has been write off and we have not consistently performed to the standard required.
Wenger should be judged on the whole season and not on a short period where he fixes up the mess that he created in the first place ;)
The problem with our manager is that he has manage to dampen expectations to the point where getting within wind of 4th looks now like a praiseworthy achievement.
Look where we are in reality. 5th behind a worm riddled team like United, parallel with a kneecapped and neutered Southampton and 2 points ahead of the Crappy Totts.
We are playing well since Xmas but we are far from being in a happy place.
This season we should end up comfortably 3rd otherwise no progress has been made. The FA cup has again been literally thrown in our laps. But before we get the "Wenger knows" bunting out lets get past Monaco and push whoever we get in the QFs all the way. Its bound to be any 1 of Bayern, Barca PSG or either Madrid.
At the moment as should be expected the Wenger out fervour has died down as results are going for us, whether he can achieve something meaningful in the time he has left is debatable but certainly the 2-0 win over City suggests he isn't quite as dead in the water as was once thought.
Am I disappointed with how the season has gone in its entirety? For sure. I can't even think about the United game without getting angry.
On the other hand if you ask me if I think our squad is better than at any time since 2011 and I was encouraged I would also say yes.
And Southampton. If there were two games we didn't want to fuck up...Quote:
I can't even think about the United game without getting angry.
Southampton result doesn't even register on the same scale as United, that was a meltdown that made Andy Murrays hissy fit yesterday pale into comparison.
We were genuinely shit on new years day and Southampton could have scored more, against United we dominated from kick off to full time, yet we turned into dunked rich tea biscuits when it came to keeping our nerve and composure.
And that is why, despite our current form, I believe we need a change of Manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Southampton was an uneventful game in which we gave two dreadful goals away. They are a solid defensive team though and earned their result.
At Stoke we were caught cold by a team who took full advantage of an atrocious selection by WUMger. The damage was done before the match started. And then again in the first thirty seconds.
Swansea was an even game, where we typically failed to take our chances and got punished in the end when they took theirs.
The Spurs and United games were the worst though. We played against a Spurs side devoid of any ideas and didn't seem to have any motivation to beat a team that were there to be beaten. Against United, well, just how the fuck did we manage that?
And do not forget as well Anderlecht.
Wait, is this the Wenger-bashing thread?
What a stupid old, self-harming, stubborn old fuck.
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Originally Posted by Globalgunner
Still plenty left to play for and top 4 is not a gimme yet.
If it weren't for injuries to Ramsey, Wilshere, Ozil and Arteta, I doubt we'd have seen Cazorla, Rosicky and Coquelin getting much game time and they've really helped pull us through along with Sanchez whose had an exceptional season. We've stumbled upon a winning combination and had a one player really carry us through and that doesn't fill me with much confidence for the future.
I've always thought Santi's best position was in the middle and shuffling him out wide just dampens his impact. Rosicky has always been that guy that gets the team really going when we're struggling. I don't know why it's taken injuries to everyone to get him more involved and that applies to Coquelin as well. My position on Wenger hasn't changed. I've seen seasons like this before and the only question in my mind is how Wenger will leave and not when.