West Ham want the Dog Snogger
Sell for £105 million paid over 18 months?
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West Ham want the Dog Snogger
Sell for £105 million paid over 18 months?
Nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by mandela8
Go back and watch him again. He's the guy who will always find the space that exposes him to the least risk. He's the guy who will always choose the safest option. He's the guy who will always slow the play down. It's little wonder he appears to be reliable, in the same way a bucket with a hole seems sound if it never carries water.
Doesn't matter anymore. It will be very easy to spot the improvement now there's a decent player in the middle. Any time I've seen Rice he's looked solid, decent enough, nothing spectacular but competent. His fee is a symptom of a silly and most likely corrupt marketplace. Regardless, he'll move the ball faster, he'll get stuck in instead of hiding and, hopefully, he won't make childish mistakes on a routine basis. Whatever the fee he should be a significant improvement.
As always, see you in a few months when the obvious has become apparent to all.
Don't exaggerate, I said he's just another in a long line of dross. Gendouzi, more of the same. Elneny, same again. That Vieira bloke, the fake one - same. You want the extra 5 points that bring you level with city? Well you won't be finding them in players like this. As we have already witnessed. As I already told you in advance. Because it's obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by mandela8
Fans find their favourites and stick. They find their hate targets and stick. You insist Saka isn't worth the shirt, which is silly. You see deficiencies in his game that annoy you. I agree, those deficiencies exist. But are balanced and often exceeded by contributions that warrant his continued inclusion as he develops. He's a kid, he'll learn. I see a 30 year old In Partey that should know better by now. There's nothing more coming from him that compensates for his glaring deficiencies which I mentioned in another post. I don't hate Partey, I'm just calling what anyone can see if they want to look beyond the huff and the puff of a journeyman that simply won't be remembered in the annals of the club. He's just another one of those guys who's here to plug a hole and he doesn't even do that very well.
All of his reds for Arsenal have been straight reds for serious foul play or violent conduct.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
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How do you know we won't do better with Rice? Where are you getting that from? Rice is a developing player that will put Arteta to the test. He's fairly raw still. Didn't see him last season but I'm assuming he didn't go rapidly backwards if clubs were bidding £100mill? So assuming he improved. Which means more energy in the middle, a higher tempo, greater creativity in the opponent's half and a willingness to get stuck in. Your typical PL package. At least he won't be sauntering around dead space with the game passing him by, which is Partey's forte. On balance it would seem more probable Rice will improve things significantly. Will it be £100mill better? Who can say right now? But why would anyone conclude, before he kicks a ball, he won't be an improvement on a guy like Partey? Why does Arteta and the club think otherwise?Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
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Originally Posted by WMUG
The most recent sending off was for a professional foul (fouling a player in on goal as the last man) and even then he actually got the ball
But yes I will concede that the dismissals were straight reds, memory clearly not what it was. But what I do remember is the two most recent sendings off were contentious.
Either way I’m still not buying that he’s this teachers pet on the training ground. The fact is whatever I think of him, three seperate coaches Wenger, Emery and Arteta have all rated him.
It's a funny reaction from many Arsenal fans. For year after year we lamented the underwhelming transfer windows and the last minute nature of the dealing, the fact we couldn't go head to head with the big clubs. That has changed. Looks like all the targets will be in place by pre-season. Just beat City in a bidding war. It's what we wanted isn't it? Rice was the number one target and he's landed. The chav bloke with the difficult spelling, got him too and also looks like a defender is bagged. If Arteta things the chav can be converted to a striking role, which I'm thinking must be the plan because where else will he play, then maybe we have one of those nice outcomes ahead that we've seen before with guys like Henry and RvP. Now I'm not saying we have the new Henry aboard, all I'm saying is it'll be interesting (for a change) to see what we do have and what Arteta's vision is. Could be a bust, for sure. But if it isn't then we got the striker we needed, we got the midfielder we needed and we got a defender which at least provides the cover we needed. It's not bad. Not much to complain about.
I’m going to guess you watch England play even more seldom than you watch Arsenal play. But if you did you would see how when Henderson doesn’t play (and I don’t think Henderson is that great) Rice looks all at sea…doesn’t know whether to shit or wind his wrist watch. Honestly his level is about that of Elneny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Has little to no acceleration, can’t deal with any kind of pressing or physicality. Compare that with Caicedo who genuinely thrives under pressure and I just don’t see what Arteta is seeing in him
And No he’s not this raw youngster he’s 24.
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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I’m quite consistent that I never wanted Rice. Spending big money for the sake of it, might keep some of the social media simpletons happy but it does nothing for me. As far as I’m concerned I’m still living in hope that the gap over how the payment is made in terms of time scale becomes unbridgeable. If City had really wanted Rice they’d have got him, there’s no point fooling ourselves that we’ve pulled off some massive coup.
Just because people here were throwing Teddy out of the pram because they hung on every word put out about West Ham about how we wanted to structure the deal who I felt minded to make fun of. Doesn’t make this a good bit of business anymore than Havertz or Timber.
We’ve seen with Chelsea that spending big money means fuck all if you’re not spending it on the right players
Mount is a strange one. He was going to be the next big thing. Obviously that didn't work out. Always seemed to be a bit of a lightweight who could easily be bullied out of a game when it mattered. Maybe Utd think they can get more out of him as part of their annual referee subscription package.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76